Intergalactic Summit

Funny what happens when an empire is ripped apart and it attempts to reform after a thousand years, you expect it to be smooth? i believe the deep seated damage you inflicted on my race is unknown even to you.

You look down upon us for a few riots? this republic is formed around a mixture of people born from different backgrounds, some are recently freed from slavery, others have been free for longer.

We havnt had thousands of years to stabilise the tribes, your holy "empire" saw to that.

There are also three tribes without elders, again we have you Amarr to thank for this, another glorious chapter in the long and rotten history of the Amarrian legacy.

If a doctor judges that the person is not in their right mind, or is a danger to themselves or others, there are laws that let that doctor override the stated wishes of that patient. A good example would be the mentally ill or someone who's attempted to commit suicide.

Even the Federation has some mandatory vaccination laws, though I believe there are religious exceptions. Alternatively, many State workers have non-negotiable medical exams and are expected to adhere to any medical treatment proscribed to them. If a company doctor says 'Inject this artificial retro-virus twice a day for the next month,' it's not a suggestion. Failure to comply can result in disciplinary measures.*

Which is all to say that the concept of 'bodily autonomy' varies greatly from culture to culture and calling it a basic human right ignores that it's obviously a cultural construct.


*If anyone from the Federation or State wants to jump in to add corrections/clarifications, please do so.

I would humbly suggest that you start taking responsibility for your own failures. Blaming the Empire for the riots in your streets, the blatant violence against peaceful persons and the difficulties in securing centralized leadership will not help you grow and develop as a people, when you begin to take responsibility rather than defer the blame you will begin to overcome the obstacles facing you.

It doesn't take thousands of years to establish a centralized government and some measure of peace and unity between a people. It can take a few years no doubt, but certainly not thousands. You have those among your number suggesting that you do just that, focus on infrastructure and developing unity among yourselves but the majority of you seem more content to keep waging war and conflict, even you yourself seem more concerned with finding the next fight than actually assisting your people, this is based on your own words.

The Empire has no doubt had an effect on your people but it was your rebellion and now it's your Republic. Take pride in it and accept responsibility for its failures as readily as you accept credit for its successes.

If you're having some minor surgery done and go a bit mental during the operation, resulting in you being seriously injured who is to blame - you or the surgeon?



If the riots are being caused by difficulties in integrating emancipated slaves into your society, then there's a obvious solution to the problem.


Perhaps you shouldn't be aiming to have all slaves released. Imagine the instability caused by every single Minmatar slave turning up on your doorstep!



The Empire was without an Emperor for a couple of years not so long ago. I don't recall seeing any riots as bad as we've witnessed in the Republic. If you Minmatars are bloodthirsty savages, perhaps it's an underlying feature of your psyche rather than anyone else's fault.

Trying to argue that the Amarr Empire is not responsible for our anger is sad.

Trying to argue that the ease with which the Republic overlooks the basic requirements of it's own population is the fault of the Empire is tragic.

So...you're saying that the years of slavery and war to "reclaim your property" had 0 baring on their current state?...Really?

Rodj.

That's ******* stupid.

They wouldn't have rebelled if you didn't enslave them and instead tried to ally with them and help them as equals, not animals. And don't say that you did it for their own good and they were treated well. If they were treated anything that could be considered well, the rebellion wouldn't have happened.


Not everyone likes subjugation, let alone invading their home planet and bombarding it from gods damn ORBIT.



They were doing fine, if not BETTER before you showed up. Then you came. You banned their practices, stomped on their culture, and killed their most important figures as a means of subjugation, subversion, fear mongering, and control. If you wanted to act "the parent" as you said, you wouldn't have beat your "child," you'd have helped them, allied with them, provided them good technology and social uplifting in a GOOD way, not a violent one. I'm sure if you had done that, and been tolerant of their practices, your two people may have hit it off well and have been a rather powerful force in the Cluster. But no, you attacked.

You still sound ******* stupid. They weren't kids. They were a flourishing race of people. Sure they didn't advance as others, but who cares? They were doing just fine in their own damn time.

But you're smart enough to know it's not 'his Government' who are responsible for that. Yet you still bait with such trite, borderline inflammatory comments.

I'm just going to come out and say it - although by now I'm sure you're used to hearing it.

You're an insufferable **** and your behavior reflects badly on all of your kind, not to mention makes it damned difficult for people like myself who would like to see the Minmatar and the Amarr come to a peaceful resolution.

You point out 3 scattered and unrelated incidents (one of which was precipitated by Amarrian zealots placing someone deliberately in harms' way, by the way, and then feigning surprise when the inevitable happened) to prove your entire argument? I could point out 3 instances where sadistic holders have brutalized their slaves and extend that to your entire race as well. We both know that would be intellectually dishonest, however.

I'm sure advocacy doesn't include forcing your religion on other people, as I mentioned before and that you so conveniently didn't answer. Also evidence? Do you REMEMBER the Days of Darkness from their history? Look who's talking about lack fo evidence. Now you sound ******* stupid AND like a ******* hypocrite.