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Somer Blink: Legit or Scam?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#301 - 2012-08-23 08:49:02 UTC
Piddle Diddy wrote:
Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely.
It's not particularly unlikely, no. In fact, it's rather to be expected.
Glary Crazy
Empyrean Warriors
#302 - 2012-08-23 09:00:49 UTC
Blinks legit, it's just unfortuanate idiots are on the internets who don't know that you can lose at a gamble. Whodathunkit.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#303 - 2012-08-23 09:14:49 UTC
I don't see how it is even fun.

If anything, I'd rather play EOH poker if i wanted to waste my time/isk
McPod
Tier Four Technologies
#304 - 2012-08-23 12:02:06 UTC
It's a legit scam.
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2012-08-23 12:34:42 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
Quote:
because the odds of winning on blink are about a zillion times better than winning the powerball or other real lotteries, and its set up in small bursts, not one big lump.


That win ratio is public information, and a lot less people complain than actually lose ISK.

I do have respect for the people that had the integrity to say "I lost money on it but such is the nature of the beast".

Especially in a game with SO MANY SORE LOSERS AND WHINERS. You would think they would be bitching up a storm.


I am not sure it stands to reason that so many would be complaining so much. I think most of the sore losing and whining and such, are in a context where the person feels they were unfairly slighted. ...
what if MOST of the people who lose in blink, understand the nature of it and just accept their losses as fair and part of the deal, and just move on?


Piddle Diddy wrote:
Kel Shek wrote:
Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning.
but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.

Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. Just like the other shills who advertise for Somer.


that was at the start. since then I've so far put in about 300m more, and won a few frigates and 50m or so ISK in cash.
... which means by my figuring, I'm just a little bit above breaking even.

even in this case, over time, the statistics work out to be much less incredible.

if a person put down one ticket on one blink, won, and stopped, they have won 100% and greatly increased their money. this isn't THAT statistically impossible. just unlikely.

coming out ahead on blink is all about getting lucky enough to get a starting point, and keeping ahead of the odds ironing out that wrinkle.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#306 - 2012-08-23 14:01:31 UTC
Piddle Diddy wrote:
Kel Shek wrote:
Idiot tax definitly works when theres no real chance of winning.
but well, with blink, this celebration I deposited 90m to start, and won a plex already. so setting aside everything I've won before the 300t event, even after losing the 50m I think it was I deposited after that, I'm at about triple my money? seems to me what I have already won, means that I can put something like 300m and still break even, even if I win nothing else.

Look, its another of those mysterious winners who managed to, gasp, triple their money, even though its statistically incredibly unlikely. Just like the other shills who advertise for Somer.



I'm really good at blink.




Isk please for shilling.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Potittious
Doomheim
#307 - 2012-08-23 14:04:45 UTC
keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling

if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.

cheers!
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#308 - 2012-08-23 14:33:22 UTC
Potittious wrote:
keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling

if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.

cheers!


actually logic tells us that its NOT a scam.

Potittious
Doomheim
#309 - 2012-08-23 14:50:37 UTC
Kel Shek wrote:
Potittious wrote:
keep on shilling baby, keep on shilling

if you're stupid enough to believe whatever they tell you, even when logic tells you it is a scam, then I guess you deserve to be scammed you stupid sheep.

cheers!


actually logic tells us that its NOT a scam.

How so? An organization with no oversight, no regulation, no records, no confirmable information, no transparency, and nothing, absolutely nothing verifiable (positive or negative). In a game based on greed, scamming, and the infinite variety of pvp. But this one is somehow different. Nobody has answered the most basic question, why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind.
Totally Trustworthy
Doomheim
#310 - 2012-08-23 14:53:20 UTC
I am totally trustworthy. Give me 1 mil ISK to participate in my lottery. I promise there are many other people playing and that I won't give the prize to my alt.
Kel Shek
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#311 - 2012-08-24 00:10:57 UTC
Potittious wrote:
[quote=Kel Shek] why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind.


at first I didn't.
at first, I started with an amount of money that I might be willing to give away, and expected that I very well might have been doing precisely that.
I tested the waters to see if for example, I actually received payment when I requested it, that ships were delivered when they should be, ect.

and you know what? they were. any delays were quite reasonable, and the apparent odds over time, seemed to be within reasonable variation of luck, according to the presented circumstances.

in MY opinion, by my personal judgement, (which I do not expect or ask anyone to take my word or accept my judgement as conclusive) the most rational, logical case, is that they stand to gain more by keeping it legitimate, than they would by cheating.

another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work?

ultimately, between my own personal experience, and the fact that I have seen absolutely no evidence that they are cheating, I see no reason why to think they are.
Thabiso
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#312 - 2012-08-24 13:12:11 UTC
So reading this thread I got interested, especially after reading the apparent ramblings of a lunatic (the somer exposed).

Deposited 100m, they where on my account immediately, within an hour of playing I've won a PLEX and a Drake, both contracted almost immediately.

alittlebirdy
All Hail The Liopleurodon
#313 - 2012-08-24 13:24:11 UTC
It's CCP allowed "botted" if you will isk.

It's all automated... and they make a profit.

Them macro miners are badddddd but HUGE auto isk making like blink and **** CCP allows it's kinda lol.
TheGhostThatNeverLies
Doomheim
#314 - 2012-08-24 13:45:52 UTC
Kel Shek wrote:
another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work?

do you not understand how a computer works? the whole thing is off the eve servers and contained entirely on the backend of the website. No one needs to do anything. Its automated.

No one can stop you from misplacing your trust, but the shills and the naysayers need to face a basic fact: you're operating entirely on faith. You don't have any way to know whether they're cheating or not. In EVE, that is ALWAYS a bad idea. Why anyone would decide that one particular group eve is trustworthy without any proof is crazy.

I got this character name from a Family guy episode. Peter is in court and he's defending himself. He calls his surprise witness, the Ghost That Never Lies, But No One But Me Can See or Hear. Its apt.

By all means, keep throwing your ISK away. Brag about it. Tell everyone what a true Somer acolyte you are. Get territorial about it. Condemn anyone who disturbs your fantasy. They love it. It's the best kind of scam, one in which the victims defend the scammer. It makes you look ridiculous.
The Arkhan
Bad Beat Inc.
#315 - 2012-08-29 07:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: The Arkhan
I won 6b isk. But I broke the rules. I made alts. I had 1b in winnings pending when my accounts were closed. After I convoed a Blink rep, they sent me my winnings, although they kept my accounts closed.

I can never play Blink again, but it's a something I can live with, since it means I beat the house. Rather unfortunate for Somer actually because I was going to buy 4 GTCs from their affiliate to play more Blink since I knew eventually I would lose.

I will vouch for Blink. It's addictive, it's fun as hell, and it's legitimate.
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#316 - 2012-08-29 08:24:00 UTC
Kel Shek wrote:
Potittious wrote:
[quote=Kel Shek] why do you trust someone you know nothing about? Would you trust anyone else in eve based on the same lack of information? It boggles the mind.


at first I didn't.
at first, I started with an amount of money that I might be willing to give away, and expected that I very well might have been doing precisely that.
I tested the waters to see if for example, I actually received payment when I requested it, that ships were delivered when they should be, ect.

and you know what? they were. any delays were quite reasonable, and the apparent odds over time, seemed to be within reasonable variation of luck, according to the presented circumstances.

in MY opinion, by my personal judgement, (which I do not expect or ask anyone to take my word or accept my judgement as conclusive) the most rational, logical case, is that they stand to gain more by keeping it legitimate, than they would by cheating.

another factor would be the difficulty in cheating. some forms of cheating would be easy, but the easy ways would be rather visible. doing it in a way that would not be obvious, would take ENORMOUS amounts of work. why spend all that energy when you can make more money more reliably, without doing that work?

ultimately, between my own personal experience, and the fact that I have seen absolutely no evidence that they are cheating, I see no reason why to think they are.


Textbook Ponzi scam FFS. "Logic dictates" that I now LOL.

Baron vonSteubing
Another War
#317 - 2012-08-29 08:54:07 UTC
i can offer nothing but my own experience...

i think its a scam of sorts.

Some people have massive win %, ive seen like 80% win rate on 200 blinks with only 3bil deposited.

Im not saying its a terrible game, but its definately not "fair" as they claim. Its not randomly won... and the "bonk" has been won 3 times by the same guy... the chances of that are crazy.

It is addicting and hats off to them for cashing in on that...

I joined blink with my main, lost 1bil and then convoed a somer blink guy in their channel. after telling him that i would deposit more isk if i won a few more... i magically won 2 promo blinks and a proteus and 3 smaller ships without a single loss...

It might be conincidence and juts gambling... but something doesnt smell right
Serith Ellecon
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#318 - 2012-08-30 03:58:35 UTC
McPod wrote:
It's a legit scam.

This. In the same way every casino on the planet is a legit scam (where local laws allow).

They make a huge profit on every blink running it legitimately, why would they ever need to turn it into a scam?

Inappropriate signature added.  CCP Notarealdev.

Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#319 - 2012-08-30 04:21:59 UTC
if you have to ask;

If you are playing EVE, its a scam lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Zeronicks Oman
Russia Caldari
#320 - 2012-09-18 19:10:36 UTC
Somer blink Statistic site http://blink.post-geek.com/