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Once again.. the Ishtar for guri plexing
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Athas
Phoenix Knights
#1 - 2012-08-17 01:46:19 UTC
Hi!

So quick question regarding this much loved ship. I have two setups, one being shield and one being armor tanked. The shield setup tanks more EFT DPS but has no AB to fit the drone omnilink. The armor setup however tanks 300 (guri) DPS less than the shield setup but has an AB.

So, assuming I wanna keep the omni link in both setups, am I better off with an extra 300 DPS tank and no AB? Or 300 DPS tank less and AB?

Thanks in advance.
ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#2 - 2012-08-17 04:44:54 UTC  |  Edited by: ColdCutz
Grabbed a fit from another thread, and tweaked it a hair.

[Ishtar, Plex Serp Guri]
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Dread Guristas Thermic Dissipation Field
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Salvager II
Small Tractor Beam II
Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
Small 'Solace' Remote Bulwark Reconstruction /OFFLINE
Improved Cloaking Device II /OFFLINE

Medium Core Defense Field Purger I
Medium Core Defense Field Purger I


Ogre II x6
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hobgoblin II x5



Have yet to try it to be honest, but I bought all the parts and am fairly optimistic that it will work. Runs the AB stable even with my crummy Fuel Conservation skills.


P.S. Oops, missed the part where you wanted to keep the Omni for sentries.
Crassula Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-08-17 05:56:30 UTC
I am using the ishtar in Gurista space to run anomalies and sites up to 8/10. The thing i like about this setup is that it's flexible enough to be used both as a semi-stationary sentry boat or, by replacing the omni's with a navigational computer and one more cap recharger, it becomes fully cap stable running the repper and ab to speed tank the DED's while the drones are killing all the rats.

I can tank forlorn hubs without moving too much, because of the small signature, you only need to pulse the repper from time to time.

The deadspace modules are very cheap (~15m for the plating, 70m for the repper and ~30m for the hardener) and they make a world of difference on this CPU starved ship.

[Ishtar, Gurista anomalies]

Centum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Centus C-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
10MN Afterburner II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I
Salvager I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Garde II x5
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#4 - 2012-08-17 06:01:31 UTC
The armor version tanks more/just as well in practice because it has smaller sig and higher transversal, meaning that it takes way less damage in the first place.

And yes, the Omni is worth it.

Please don't fly ships without guns :(

.
Crassula Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-08-17 06:05:14 UTC
The high slots are open to anything you can squeeze on them, be it 3 blasters/3 railguns or any mix of guns/salvagers/tractor beams/whatnot you want to put in - i was just suggesting a fit that works tank/drone wise.
Athas
Phoenix Knights
#6 - 2012-08-22 23:29:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Athas
Thanks for the advice.

Re: the above armor tank fit.

I run a t2 fit of that but with one more repper and dc. Is your version tanky enough with a single rep and less resists? When I flew the shield ishtar (which I believe tanks more eft dps than that) I remember things like Piths Penal being quite demanding on the tank? The shield fit tanks 1300 guri dps but that's obviously without ab and higher sig radius.

Thanks again.
Crassula Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-08-23 08:11:37 UTC
Short answer: yes, it is

Long answer: it can tank anomalies without even moving, i use railguns for extra dps. For 6-7-8/10 and unrated combat sites, i switch to a fit with AB+drone nav comp+3 rechargers, which is cap stable with everything on. The reasons are: easier to speed tank with mobile drone (ogres instead of sentries), and faster times because of the long distances between spawns and gates in some of these sites - just make sure to prioritize in all cases scramming/webbing frigs, stasis towers, then cruisers/BS's, since BS's are really not an issue for this ship.

Stay away from anything with neuting, like the guristas fleet staging point second room