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need this kill and loss checked please why did i get concorded?
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DIGGER1
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#1 - 2012-08-22 18:09:39 UTC
2012.08.19 05:51:00

Victim: Sup Holmes1
Corp: The Legitimate PVP Corporation
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Minmatar Republic
Destroyed: Capsule
System: Niarja
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 414

Involved parties:

Name: DIGGER1 (laid the final blow)
Security: -3.00
Corp: Privateers
Alliance: None
Faction: None
Ship: Rapier
Weapon: 425mm AutoCannon II
Damage Done: 414

2012.08.19 05:50:00

Victim: DIGGER1
Corp: Privateers
Alliance: Unknown
Faction: Unknown
Destroyed: Rapier
System: Niarja
Security: 0.5
Damage Taken: 13570

Involved parties:

Name: Amarr Sentry Gun / Amarr Empire (laid the final blow)
Damage Done: 11762

Name: CONCORD Police Captain / CONCORD
Damage Done: 1808

Destroyed items:

Damage Control II
Republic Fleet EMP M, Qty: 118
Gyrostabilizer II
Stasis Webifier II
Republic Fleet EMP M, Qty: 118
Barrage M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo)
Large Shield Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
425mm AutoCannon II
Republic Fleet EMP M, Qty: 1640 (Cargo)
Stasis Webifier II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Hail M, Qty: 2000 (Cargo)
Warp Disruptor II
425mm AutoCannon II

Dropped items:

Signal Amplifier II
Large Shield Extender II
10MN Microwarpdrive II
Gyrostabilizer II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Republic Fleet EMP M, Qty: 118
425mm AutoCannon II
Hornet EC-300, Qty: 5 (Drone Bay)

now then the its a legit wt in empire i killed his pod and then got concorded?why
any help please
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#2 - 2012-08-22 18:13:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Bad Messenger
Maybe you combat log shows reason better, maybe you agroed something else too.

edit: if you lost security status too reason may be found from security status details.
DIGGER1
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#3 - 2012-08-22 18:16:09 UTC
nope sorry only target was him killed the pod and all this from that rules state any taget is valid in high sec does not say u cannot kill a pod
Megnamon
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-08-22 18:24:18 UTC
If you can't figgure out what happened that you were Concorded (you can pod a WT in High Sec, so sounds wonky to me), I would suggest sending a petition in game to the GM's. It may take a couple weeks for a response, but they will get to it and if need be rectify the situation.
DIGGER1
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#5 - 2012-08-22 18:26:53 UTC
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#6 - 2012-08-22 18:27:35 UTC
Hmm that's a strange one. Possibly a bug where it did not see you as being in caldari militia, if you notice in the kill report it lists your faction as unknown. I know yesterday I ran across a squid who showed neutral on my overview but was in fact a war target, even got the GCC warning when engaging, however no GCC and it was in lowsec.

Regardless I would petition the loss, they will deny it at first (they always do) but keep escalating it and make sure they understand what happened.

nom nom
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#7 - 2012-08-22 18:28:42 UTC
That's either a ******** GM or they changed the rules and didn't tell anyone

DIGGER1 wrote:
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply

nom nom
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-08-22 18:30:46 UTC
DIGGER1 wrote:
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply

Are you serious? I'd escalate the petition.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
DIGGER1
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#9 - 2012-08-22 18:33:15 UTC
according to (gm mace) his word is final they wont replace the ship or my sec, but i have asked for new gm to look at it.
even if they have changed the rules its not shown so as far as im concerened its not posted in the rules so replace all is what i say
Bad Messenger
Rehabilitation Clinic
#10 - 2012-08-22 19:27:24 UTC
GM does not usually know how game works, ask to escalate it to senior GM, those sometimes know something.
Dan Carter Murray
#11 - 2012-08-22 19:33:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Dan Carter Murray
what's your security status?


AS FAR AS I KNOW BUT I COULD BE WRONG:

CONCORD will **** your day up if you show up in highsec with a security status that you're not supposed to have.

I used to have a -2.8 or something like that when I was in minmatar militia (left because of the cowardice of the minmatar) and would go to amarr space and pod people or kill people with an insta-lock thrasher.

The navy won't scram you, just web you and try to kill you in any security space.

CONCORD on the other hand, depending on your security status and what security space you're in, will scram/web/etc. you and beat you down like the LAPD.

AGAIN, AS FAR AS I KNOW BUT I COULD BE WRONG:

So yes, you can pod WTs in highsec, but if you go to specific space with a specific security status then CONCORD is gonna git ya.

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Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#12 - 2012-08-22 21:04:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Feldman
Doesn't look like you guys were actually in Amarr/Cal mil at the time. Check mails to verify the timing on when you guys switched. Suprised you didn't get a GCC popup.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-08-23 01:55:24 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Dan Carter Murray wrote:
what's your security status?


AS FAR AS I KNOW BUT I COULD BE WRONG:

CONCORD will **** your day up if you show up in highsec with a security status that you're not supposed to have.

I used to have a -2.8 or something like that when I was in minmatar militia (left because of the cowardice of the minmatar) and would go to amarr space and pod people or kill people with an insta-lock thrasher.

The navy won't scram you, just web you and try to kill you in any security space.

CONCORD on the other hand, depending on your security status and what security space you're in, will scram/web/etc. you and beat you down like the LAPD.

AGAIN, AS FAR AS I KNOW BUT I COULD BE WRONG:

So yes, you can pod WTs in highsec, but if you go to specific space with a specific security status then CONCORD is gonna git ya.

CONCORD only deals with global criminals, not security status.
The exception being the Genesis constellation, but they act like faction police there.

The GM is wrong if he said that you cannot podkill war targets.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#14 - 2012-08-23 02:30:21 UTC
Copy and paste the GM responce all over the forums.
All pod kills in hi-sec should result in concord kills then...which just isn't happening.
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#15 - 2012-08-23 02:34:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Perkin Warbeck
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Doesn't look like you guys were actually in Amarr/Cal mil at the time. Check mails to verify the timing on when you guys switched. Suprised you didn't get a GCC popup.


This.

Judging from your lossmail your faction isn't showing as Amarr Militia and so technically you may not have been a legitimate war target at the time. The GM is incorrect though (I hope). It's always been the case that you can pod war targets in high-sec.
Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#16 - 2012-08-23 05:54:03 UTC
DIGGER1 wrote:
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply

I podded war targets in high sec all the time so this isn't the case.

The thing that catches my eye is that you were also shot by a sentry gun. You apparently did something to attract not just CONCORD, but the sentry's attention. Is it possible you hit the star gate or a station or, as the others have pointed out, may not have been actually in faction war yet?

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2012-08-23 07:49:34 UTC
Shadow Adanza wrote:
DIGGER1 wrote:
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply

I podded war targets in high sec all the time so this isn't the case.

The thing that catches my eye is that you were also shot by a sentry gun. You apparently did something to attract not just CONCORD, but the sentry's attention. Is it possible you hit the star gate or a station or, as the others have pointed out, may not have been actually in faction war yet?


You can shoot the gate all day long, Concord doesn't care
Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
#18 - 2012-08-23 08:21:01 UTC
DIGGER1 wrote:
according to (gm *name*) his word is final.....


Also, you might want to edit your post, explicitely naming staff is not allowed, to my knowledge, and having this thread locked up or w/e is not going to help....

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Shadow Adanza
Gold Crest Salvage
#19 - 2012-08-23 15:05:13 UTC
Sola Mercury wrote:
Shadow Adanza wrote:
DIGGER1 wrote:
had reply from gm they say u cant pod a wt in high sec was his reply

I podded war targets in high sec all the time so this isn't the case.

The thing that catches my eye is that you were also shot by a sentry gun. You apparently did something to attract not just CONCORD, but the sentry's attention. Is it possible you hit the star gate or a station or, as the others have pointed out, may not have been actually in faction war yet?


You can shoot the gate all day long, Concord doesn't care

I shot the station once when trying to shoot a war target and they came in and ruined my day so I thought it might apply to that, too. Thanks for the heads up.

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors
#20 - 2012-08-23 15:37:19 UTC
Your corp isnt in militia? ......
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