Science & Industry

Sorry, I miscalculated. It's actually 6m every ten hours. I forgot to carry the one, and multiply by the square root of the total distance that a laden swallow can travel.

That being said, I'm doing this on one planet with ten installation producing said product. So I'm going to expand this model out to 5, and then I should be looking at around 30m every ten hours. So it's starting to look up. :)

He isn't

1 planet with 10 installations? It's a factory planet. When doing PI in a wormhole I was doing it from P0 to finished product. My extraction planets generally ran 10-12 installations (launchpad, ECU with 10 heads, the rest basic processors). Even with the rich WH planets it was sometimes difficult to extract fast enough to keep more than 8 processors running full time. And that setup would never generate that much income, as none of the P0 or P1 is worth enough.

So it's a factory planet. So in terms of the OP.

1. It's not some amazing program that should have taken 20 hours to code. It's simply excel-fu to figure out what products are profitable from stage X to Y.

2. It's not "minimal effort". I had looked into it when my alliance had taken over a section of lowsec near a trade hub and installed POCO's While the amount of isk I calculated I could make was very high, the amount of work would be far more than my WH operation. I'm talking freighters worth of material to haul in (to lowsec) and finished product to haul out and sell. And planets that needed to be refilled at best every other day. Certainly not a low amount of effort.

Also, any testimonies now are suspect anyhow. You won't know any real numbers for at least a month of actually running your PI and selling the product.

I'm sticking to my original story. If unsure of how that story goes I suggest the classic 1957 film "The Music Man"

For example, the fact that the OP has already shut down shop due to "overwhelming demand" before anyone has had time to even run their "optimal personalized setups" to give proper feedback, fits the story to a "T".

I did once some Factory Planets in a Class 1 WH. The profits where great. For a time I was willing to haul 2 Freighters of materials per day in and out of the small Class 1 WH.

- Max PI skilled characters
- most could fly a Badger II or Iteron V
- 2 Freighter pilots
- Planet Setups that didn't need attention 4-6 days before refiling

The truth is that it was killing me. The workload from hauling and worrying about the market where to much compared to other options EVE had to offer.

Hauling into the WH was not hard. 20-30 min with 4 Iteron V for 1 Freighter. Flying the Freighters is also almost an afk activity. The big time sink is when you need to refill each planet with the owning character.

At the moment I'm doing R0 to P4 in the C1 WH. With 6 characters I get 100mil/day.

I am glad you are happy. It is mostly that your own testimonial is certainly way off the mark from the OP's claims. For example:

"My current setup with Command Center Upgrades LVL 3 + Interplanetary Consolidation LVL 3 + never leaving high-sec gives me an income of 360mio ISK per month. It needs hauling every 3,4265 days"

"With the optimal setup my character could alone make more than 14billion ISK (yes im talking about 28 PLEXes) a month."


Maybe if the OP had been a bit more reasonable with his claims, he would have been more believable.

There is not a single thing i wrote here that i couldn't defend if really needed.
Until now all estimated prices I gave out in this forum or ingame were about right and only one actually needs a bit of work to keep it running (but he decided that for himself)

The program i made has NOTHING to do with Excel anymore. Only the first few tries for myself were made in Open Office Calc. However this sheet is not used anymore.
I do NOT characterize an excel-sheet as a program. Just like a word-sheet, a picture or even pure html is NOT a program.
I made a java-program that reads out all values in all trade hubs first (buy and sell order) automaticly, with the amount suplied takes into account how much power, how many planets, tax, hauling-capacity you have and goes through multiple multidimensial loops in order to calculate all production chains everywhere at any given moment. I also have to specify for how long the chain with the current orders needs to be doable. It spits out the best chains and i can set it to ignroe the ones i already gave away. Whats quite funny about this is that the chains my program suggests are mostly seeded in 4 different kinds of setups and mostly can be assigned to one of those.
So pls dont tell me i just did some god damn Excel sheet like I could have done years ago when i was still at 6. grade and we covered Excel in high-school. I actually find that quite offensive.

However i did not make myself a graphical user interface jet and the output data is quite hard to read. Therefore i need quite some time for each setup that i didnt do before in order to make a understandable eve-mail out of it.

I first planed to let it spit out an eve-mail with all information that i only need to copy-paste for each input but this proved to be too much work. I rather want to play eve (:

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT PART::
Im not a scammer!
Everybody who payed me until now has received reliable information and numbers and was able to set up my system. This should be clear by now. And since you have to agree to the amount of ISK i propose it's always a fair deal. I don't steal anything and I don't want ISK for something i cannot provide. You know exactly what you will get when you decide to pay me

And please stop mentioning that theoretical number over and over and over......
Of course i cant provide that for everybody. Thats why its the maximal number to be achievable by anyone ever. If it would be easily doable with normal effort and would be obvious to everyone it wouldn't be so high, now would it?

regards

If I created and had this system to make 14bil a month there is no way I would tell anyone. And if I did why charge them? Your making 14bil a month!... Just make 3alts and then make 56bil a month!..

Just saying.

07

We start out with a thoughtfull comment:


i could just put some words in front of several numbers, that would help i guess ^^
currently its just plain numbers and "-"s ^^
I could but i will have to write some tests soon and this stuff takes an awefull lot of time. (:

Now lets get to my least favorite kind of comment: The ones that refuse to understand or even read and keep repeating themselves over and over and over because beeing unable to understand something that was written almost 10 times seems to be their biggest trait of character.



How often have i answered this question jet? must be arround 6-10 times in just 3 pages of thread, but lets do it again, for the really persistent ones:
My character is pretty new, therefore i have neither the skills nor the capabilities to use my own mechanics to a full extend. You are totally right, why would i post it otherwise? Altough i can just do 6 planets myself anyway and therefore not use all profitable chains anyway. The big number also is theorethical and it would take a ton of work to get close to it. And for the last time i will write, that i regret putting that number in here, because of all the useless critics it earned me.
You may ask or critisize anything on me, my thread or my system, but the next one who annoys me with that 14bil will be called dumbo regulairly.

Now lets coninue with annother comment that makes sense:



Sounds good to me. Once you are ready mail me. Write me a ingame mail rather than convying me, because 50% of the time when im online im just ingame to look up stuff for my next project (: And yes its 100mio.
Im currently writing something to compare all BPOs and see which one gives me the best output per research-time/price. (:
Some similar things already exist, but they are very bad at comparing the blueprints and mineral-prices arent very acurate:
http://zofu.no-ip.de/bpo