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So i am Amarr.....
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Imperius Vecaradi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-08-22 21:48:16 UTC
Well i am Amar There ships are sleek and look good. now for the difficult part. Amarr Specilze in lasers correct? and lasers use capacitor. Thus making usuing shileds difficult right? some here are some questions nthat i need clearing up

1. Lasers are they good weapons?

2. Does Amarr Prefer armor and hull repairs over shield boosters/extenders?

3. just usuing lasers doesnt seem enough do i train to use rockets or missles as well?

4. I notice Amarr ships are pretty fast by themselves should afterburmner/MWD be trained and fitted?




Thanks in Advance

"only one of us can ride forever, so you and I cant ride together, can't live or cant die together, all we can do is collide together,"-Mos Def
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-22 21:50:14 UTC
You want to fit a lot of reactor control units and cap boosters in order to use your shield mods effectively with lazers

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2012-08-22 21:52:38 UTC
1. yes

2. yes

3. yes

4. yes
Imperius Vecaradi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-08-22 21:55:59 UTC
Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:
You want to fit a lot of reactor control units and cap boosters in order to use your shield mods effectively with lazers




so im guessing armor and ull tanking is best then correct?

"only one of us can ride forever, so you and I cant ride together, can't live or cant die together, all we can do is collide together,"-Mos Def
Generals4
#5 - 2012-08-22 21:57:35 UTC
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
Well i am Amar There ships are sleek and look good. now for the difficult part. Amarr Specilze in lasers correct? and lasers use capacitor. Thus making usuing shileds difficult right? some here are some questions nthat i need clearing up

1. Lasers are they good weapons?

2. Does Amarr Prefer armor and hull repairs over shield boosters/extenders?

3. just usuing lasers doesnt seem enough do i train to use rockets or missles as well?

4. I notice Amarr ships are pretty fast by themselves should afterburmner/MWD be trained and fitted?




Thanks in Advance


1. Yes
2. Not sure why you would hull tank. Go for armor tanking. Hull repairers are pointless
3. It's a nice plus.
4. Off course. Armor tanking will nerf your speed and what may appear as a fast whip might end up slow due to fitting armor plates and rigs.

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TheBreadMuncher
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
#6 - 2012-08-22 21:57:45 UTC
Armor tanking OR hull tanking. Don't mix the two and for the love of god please don't hulltank.

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Imperius Vecaradi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2012-08-22 21:59:39 UTC
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Armor tanking OR hull tanking. Don't mix the two and for the love of god please don't hulltank.






LOL sorry your in the presnese of a complete noob here <

"only one of us can ride forever, so you and I cant ride together, can't live or cant die together, all we can do is collide together,"-Mos Def
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-08-22 22:06:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
Go to this page

Somewhere in the middle you can download the "latest" guide (its free pdf).
It says Isk guide but it touches "every" subject.

It is a bit out of date yet it does explain really well the differences in tanks.
It will also explain what to look for to know if a ship is usually armor or shield tanked and its varieties.

Good luck

Edit Since your a new pilot, you will want to read the whole guide, its over 400 pages, so.....dont get disouraged, just take it in, one subject at the time. After a subject, google for 2012 guides on the subject to get completely up to date.

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#9 - 2012-08-22 22:10:30 UTC
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
Well i am Amar There ships are sleek and look good. now for the difficult part. Amarr Specilze in lasers correct? and lasers use capacitor. Thus making usuing shileds difficult right? some here are some questions nthat i need clearing up

1. Lasers are they good weapons?

2. Does Amarr Prefer armor and hull repairs over shield boosters/extenders?

3. just usuing lasers doesnt seem enough do i train to use rockets or missles as well?

4. I notice Amarr ships are pretty fast by themselves should afterburmner/MWD be trained and fitted?




Thanks in Advance



Yes

Yes. Take note of how many more lows you have in relation to mids.

Don't stop there. The best part about eve is there is no limit to what you can learn.

Yes

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Imperius Vecaradi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-08-22 22:10:51 UTC
I also want to make an Overview tab for Secruity missions how would i do that?

"only one of us can ride forever, so you and I cant ride together, can't live or cant die together, all we can do is collide together,"-Mos Def
Lili Lu
#11 - 2012-08-22 22:12:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lili Lu
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
TheBreadMuncher wrote:
Armor tanking OR hull tanking. Don't mix the two and for the love of god please don't hulltank.







LOL sorry your in the presnese of a complete noob here <



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Think about joining a player corp as soon as you can. It helps to learn some things in this complex game, although no guarantees that they will be correct things.P Also, there is the rookie help chat channel. I believe you are automatically placed in it as a day old character. Anyway there should be a link to it in your chat channel search menu. It is a good place to ask basic questions like in your op.

edit- also this https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=257
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-22 22:14:02 UTC
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
I also want to make an Overview tab for Secruity missions how would i do that?


That is also in the guide I linked to

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
Henry Kaine
Royal Amarr Institute
#13 - 2012-08-22 22:17:29 UTC
As an Amarr, you should learn to shout "FIRIN MAH LAZERZ" really well.
Jace Errata
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-22 22:19:04 UTC
Yeah training for missiles and prop mods is something you're gonna want to do fairly soon, regardless of how they relate to Amarr ships. (Admittedly I am biased here because for me empty highs = potential launchers and any ship = potential speedboat)

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Imperius Vecaradi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-08-22 22:21:27 UTC
Tiger Would wrote:
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
I also want to make an Overview tab for Secruity missions how would i do that?


That is also in the guide I linked to



Ah yes isnt it like 30$? though seems handy i might get it. but we are in inferno know how old is the info?

"only one of us can ride forever, so you and I cant ride together, can't live or cant die together, all we can do is collide together,"-Mos Def
Lord breathenstein
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-08-22 22:23:18 UTC
I'm kinda hoping president camacho gets an ass whooping in November and we all get invited to his stoning right after.
Tiger Would
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-08-22 22:29:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiger Would
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
Tiger Would wrote:
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
I also want to make an Overview tab for Secruity missions how would i do that?


That is also in the guide I linked to



Ah yes isnt it like 30$? though seems handy i might get it. but we are in inferno know how old is the info?



No thats the physical version
You need to go down halfway and richt click save the pdf for the free version (english or other language)

the pdf is free of charge


edit, the info is out of date, not sure by how much exactly.
But the basic premises certainly still apply.
This guide just "plants" you better for reading the 2012 guides which mostly count on you already understanding some of the basics. The linked guide provides just that, the basics to get planted.

But yes, always google for 2012 guides after each subject.

edit 2
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page
also a very good portal for using when making your first steps into the universe

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#18 - 2012-08-22 22:33:23 UTC
For future reference... these types of thread totally don't belong in this section of the forums. New Citizens Q&A is that way. ----->

Now then...
Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
1. Lasers are they good weapons?

Yes and no.

Lasers are quite nice in that they...
- don't use ammo the way other weapons do (T1 crystals can be used almost infinitely, T2 and Faction crystals (see: "special" crystals) are good for 1000+ shots).
- have the longest range "short range" turret in the game.
- can change their optimal range in under a second by swapping crystals.

However...
- as you already noticed, they use a lot of capacitor power to fire. If you have no capacitor left, your weapons are useless. And your enemies can use special equipment to do just this.
- they have the worst tracking ability of all the short range turret systems.
- they only deal EM and Thermal-type damage (enemies can use this limitation to beef up resistances against you).

Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
2. Does Amarr Prefer armor and hull repairs over shield boosters/extenders?

Amarr ships almost exclusively armor tank. There are exceptions... but you'll learn about that as you fly with other pilots and gain experience in the game.
For the time being... just stick strictly with armor tanking.

Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
3. just usuing lasers doesnt seem enough do i train to use rockets or missles as well?

"... doesn't seem enough..." seems to imply that you're not doing very good damage. Since you are a beginner I think that has more to do with your low skills in gunnery than anything else. Train your gunnery support skills up to 3 or 4 and I'm sure you'll see an improvement.

As for missiles... it's a secondary weapon system that some Amarr ships can use... same as drones (on larger ships). I suggest you stick with improving your gunnery skills first before branching out.


Imperius Vecaradi wrote:
4. I notice Amarr ships are pretty fast by themselves should afterburmner/MWD be trained and fitted?

Amarr ships are actually the slowest in the game. More so when you put on a full armor tank. However, it's sometimes good to have an AB or MWD for PvE activities just so you can get from point A to B faster.
MWDs are almost mandatory for PvP activities.

How did you Veterans start?
Big Bossu
Primal Instinct Inc.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2012-08-22 23:17:45 UTC
t1 frigates: decent
t2 frigates: not exactly horrible, but not that good either
t1 cruisers: pretty bad
t2 cruisers: very good, Curse, Zealot and Pilgrim are all very decent ships
battlecruisers: Harb and Oracle are both decent for pvp
battleships: aba and armageddon are good close range pvp ships, but Amarr lacks a decent fleet sniper
capitals: all ships are good

Overall, Amarr is a decent race, but they have a few problems:

1. Lack decent PVE ship that can do good in all regions of the game. EM damagetype is pretty bad versus Angels and Guristas - that pretty much rules out effective PVE in a large portion of EVE universe.
2. Armor tanking in general is pretty bad for sub-capitals, most pvp fleets fit shield tanks. That being said, you do see fleets based around Amarr ships(Zealot and Abaddon) from time to time.
3. Bad racial EW(tracking disruption), that is useless vs some of the most flow ships in the game(Drake, Tengu)
Jim Era
#20 - 2012-08-22 23:20:42 UTC
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