EVE General Discussion

Google "margin trading scam EVE online" and you'll find out how he did it.


Its a pretty easy scam, both to pull and avoid.

As I have stated, unless someone can explain to me how the order was cancel when the player is not online, then I would believe that CCP is not involve. And if it is due to margin, then again, the mechanics was was the sole purpose of scamming. How then CCP is not involve cos they create the mechanic in the 1st place.

This is best part .

Hmm maybe you could write to Obama to nuke Iceland. I think there is proper reason "making US people look dumb" .

You don't seems to understand I think. Yes I do know now that this is a Margin Scam, but the Margin scam uses the help of the Margin Skill to perform such scam. However, no true buyer would bother training that skill unless they want to false a buy order. Thus the Margin Skills should be know as Scam Skill instead. My point is that when CCP introduce this skill, they promote or assist scammer a new line of scamming. So they are responsible just like how I explain the robber and the police story, unless you didn't care to read it and just busy posting your insults.

Unrelated to OP:
Threads like these pop up really regularly. How about we just start linking to the last thread
instead of starting multiple-page-threads over and over and over again,
just because these idiots can't get their heads around the fact that they have no ground to complain on ?


Related:

1) Nobody cares about you.
1a) You complain about stuff in the funny belief that it will create a positive outcome, in what way ever.
1b) You seriously believe you're actually "getting back" with this, ignoring that ...
1c) ... people smarter than you read your words and make fun of you, because you behave like an idiot.

2) Nobody would care about your issue if CCP was based in the US.
2a) If CCP was from the US, this game would have died long ago because it would reach out for idiots like you.
2c) If you're from the US, your friends will totally acknowledge how bad we EvE-Players and CCP are,
while at the same time laugh their asses off about you when you don't notice.
2c.1) Being from the US is a bad excuse for not *thinking before doing*.

3) The amount of words you've needed to express your feelings show that you're pretty butthurt about it.
3a) see 1a
3b) see 1b+1c

4) Every idiot uses the "new players argument".
4a) None of these idiots ever shown proof that he knows what new players want.

... which connects to ...

5) People buy things that get advertised.
5a) EvE gets advertised as a bad place. Dark. Unforgiven. People laugh at you. People kill you. People rob you.
5a.1) Independent of what people *want* to believe, this actually works ... obviously.
5b) Whatever *you* believe new players want is just your stupid opinion because facts (the advertising) proves you wrong.

6) It's all your fault. I know you don't get raised that way, but it's indeed all your fault. Deal with it.

Never posted this way before. I'm sure i missed things out.

...EVERY single person commenting here knows exactly what happened here, except you. I suspect the reason nobody has explained it to you is because there's a thread like this every other week and they are tired of ctrl+c ctrl+v the answer for the zillionth time.

Actually... maybe it's my turn. There is a skill called "Margin Trading" that allows you to put up buy orders in excess of what you actually have in your wallet. For people who have Tycoon 5 this is useful, because it can take months for an order to fill, and in the meantime you have all this isk doing nothing tied up in your orders. So if I have 305 orders out on one account and I'm buying large volumes of some material on the market in a dozen regions, I may only want 1/4 of what I have orders for, but I get a better price by pushing out the orders to more places, which allows me to get the volume I need faster. I am actually using the margin skill to buy stuff right now, because the volume is low all over new eden but I need a lot... so I can put large orders in on different regional markets to try and 1) get a better price and 2) fill the volume I require more quickly. I'm using it as it was intended to be used, and it's allowed me to move like a big trader despite the fact that I'm a little trader.

Some people use the Margin Skill in another way. They put in a minimum buy order of lets say 200,000 of something for 10x it's value on one character, and empty their wallet into another account. They use the other account to sell 200,000 of that same item for 5x its usual price. Then a chump comes along (in this case, you) and sees the disparity on the market. Thinking they will double their money in a minute, they buy the 200,000 units of that item and ignore the warning that it's 5x the going rate for that item, thinking they will just flip it. However, when they go to sell it the buy order disappears, because the account that put in that buy order doesn't have the ISK to pay you, so the order disappears and you just gave the scammer 4x his initial investment.

tl;dr; google harder. This scam happens every day.

CCP need to rename that skill to 'Margin Trade Scamming' and be done with it.

lol, new players trying to market PvP
learn to play before you make these ridiculous accusations.

That why I say, why play a game where you get scam every corner? Some say that this is like real life, I beg the different, because in real life you wouldn't dare scam a person outright. I am looking for a game that I can enjoy, pve or pvp. But definitely not a game that would make you emotional angry every now and then you get grief or scam. Why play a game then if the game would only make you unhappy?

Yeah, Margin scam, Plex scam and the whole lot of different scam that evolve Eve daily. So is that all what Eve is all about? For the last 2 months I had been scam by P.I.S.S. alliance where I have to contribute all my PI and mine 5hrs of ice each day where promise of payment for my services but eventually nothing and my badger got blow up by blue cos the person wants his killmail to look good and alliance did nothing. I spent another 2 weeks moving my stuff out and settling down from null sec to back to high sec...just to con again.

Eve is all about nothing but being con or go con some1 else :(

Thank you, you just made my afternoon, but please while you gave me a good laugh, think before you write something, have at least a small grasp of the concepts and arguments you are trying to make, I mean really?