EVE General Discussion

I am a 5 months old player and I have seen many scam going on in Eve online. I have today been scam 300mil isk. To make that money, I had been playing 10 hrs a day for the last 3 weeks. I know many players can make more but as a new player, this is what i can only manage.

I saw a buy order in the market for an item 2,000 units for a minimum order of 2,000unit at 200kisk each. I purchase all the items in the market and when i select sell, the price still indicate 200k isk but when I confirm it, the buy order disappear. For that 1 transaction, I lost 300mil.

Indeed, I was con not only by the player but by CCP, because the player I purchase most item was not even online so the question is how he to cancel the buy order? But since the order disappear, make me believe that it was program to perform such by CCP themselves. I refuse to believe that any player would spent 24/7 and ever second to watch the screen and to cancel the buy order and log out at a 2 second interval. Moreover, the player which I purchase most of the item was not online, so question is how did he cancel his buy order offline? Unless it was programed.

Looking into the entire Eve, there is many scam going on that in any other games you will not see because all this loophole has been covered by the developer.

For example, we all know about PLEX scam that has been going on where you think you buy a Plex cheap in contract but you actually have to give back a plex and loss the 320mil (standard plex con rate). The question, why did CCP allow the same identical item to be allow to post as a Buy/Sell contract? Meaning, you can post that you selling an item in exchange you want the same item back. Not even in real life such system exist. Allowing minimum quantity up to a rediculess amount is another part of program that only CCP allowing it to take place. And many more scam.

Reason of me believing that CCP is the one scamming is that in such players will be force to buy more Plex or renew their account in real money. Why make us believe that we can actually make money mining/trading/manufacturing to buy a Plex where chances you get con at end of the day.

Many of my friends who actually get a Plex was totally into ratting not into to buying and selling ****.

Other than CCP is the real scammer behind all those player name, there is no other reason why CCP allow scam to take place, in the 1st place. They have the objective, the motive and the real benefit behind all those scam.

I though i was 100mil more to go to get a Plex in 2 days before my accounts expire but I was wrong, dead wrong. So no, I will not be able to buy a Plex.

Will I be paying in real money to renew my account? The question I ask myself is why? Why do I want to continue to play a game that instead of enjoying myself I get grief, I get con and scam only to feel unhappy, angry and a complete idiot. Yes I agree (no trolling require) I am a idiot to allow myself to pay real money and feel unhappy about it. This USD$14.95 I could get in a game when I can feel better achievement and pleasure.

For all those real players who are not CCP staff or part of their organization, I don't feel angry at you even if you are a scammer or griefer. It is CCP that I should be angry about. Just like in real life, when you have been rob and the police watch you being rob, instead of helping you, he tell you thats real life mechanic, so get over it. I would be extremely angry at the police more than the robber. For all you know, the robber has already team up with the police in the 1st place. Just like what CCP is telling you that this is game mechanic but they are the one who create this mechanic.

I am positive that CCP will not feel anything losing 1 player as myself nor would Eve stop it's cycle. But this is one of many reasons why it is hard for Eve to get new players. At the end of the day, it handful of people all with multiple alt surrounded by CCP scammer alt that would only exist in the game.

I wish the remaining players or those that would remain in the near future goodbye and thanks for showing me it is not worth playing Eve as long as you would cause it would be idiotic wouldn't it? Hence I have save alot of money and this money will be spent on game that is more worth my attention and where I could gain pleasure instead of any bad emotion.

1 thing thou, if Eve would be a US company, this will not just end here in the forum. Lucky them hey :)


EDIT: Changed your thread title since it has been explained to you that CCP has not scammed you at all - ISD Type40.

You are dumb as hell.

You sir have fallen for the typical "Trade Margin" scam. And no CCP is not behind it.

CCP allows it because EVE is supposed to be a universe where pricks and a-holes feel at home.

If ccp really wanted to scam people they'd make isk disapear not allow people to rip each other off.

If CCP is not behind this, explain how a buy order was cancel when player not online?

5 month old player and he's just learning now about the margin trading scam?

fuuuuu, what do corps do with/for their members these days? I knew the general mechanic by the end of my first month ... and I was still in a noobcorp then...

Your order still is active and trying to sell the stuff for 200K, albeit obviously the buyer scammed you through the margin trading skill: let me guess, you just had bought the 2,000 units for a convenient price above the market average?

Cancel the order and you will only lose the brokers fee.... but good luck trying to sell the 2,000 "convenient" units at the price you paid for them.

The guy who set the order hadn't enough money to fulfill it, so it failed.

This.

Isn't greed a wonderful thing.

So, they set up a buy order for 2k units (with 2k minimum) at 200k ISK per unit. 2k * 200k = 400m
Assuming a Margin Trading skill of 5, that means they put ~100 million in escrow, with the remainder to be covered by their wallet. They emptied their wallet.


So, soon as the order was attempted to be filled by someone (a.k.a. "the mark"), the game tried taking the rest of the ISK from the buyer's (now empty) wallet. Since the order is 100% unable to be completed, the game pops it off the buy order board (IIRC, it fully kills the order, and takes any funds out of escrow to return to the buyer ... though I don't work with margin Trading so much).

Holy life journal batman.