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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#21 - 2012-08-21 18:34:23 UTC
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara wrote:
Istvaan Shogaatsu wrote:
An unsettling question for you all:

While a human mind certainly cannot pick apart the strands of fate with the finesse of a tapestry-weaver... what if there were minds who could? What if there were minds out there, that could identify the one insignificant but utterly key moment that decides whether a person becomes a nobody, or a revolutionary...

A single human mind, perhaps not. But multiple minds working towards a common goal? Of course. The Gallente call them politicians. Anything else is just madness. Of course, understanding that an individual is destined for greatness, and choosing to deny that individual said greatness... why, one would be akin to a God, non? I don't see anything unnecessarily unsettling about that.

Ever looked at someone and thought, "if only they had the power to do what they say..."? Ever thought what exactly might be required to break such an individual? Looked at their psyche and found the one hole--that one temptation that they can never resist--and decided to see what would happen?

A Deceiver's Voice, a subtle lie, an obvious untruth... or even giving the truth freely to the right person.

On second thought, it's entirely possible for a single individual to understand that tapestry, if they only had the proper perspective. Don't you agree, Istvaan?


Aha, now I know who you are.
Anslo
Scope Works
#22 - 2012-08-21 18:39:12 UTC
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara wrote:
Anslo wrote:
So....people need perspective modification implants?..

No implants required. I'd say it's more a "situation awareness" thing.


Wanna expand on the idea?...

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-08-21 18:49:32 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Wanna expand on the idea?...

I think I've derailed this topic long enough.
Anslo
Scope Works
#24 - 2012-08-21 18:50:41 UTC
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Wanna expand on the idea?...

I think I've derailed this topic long enough.


Oh come on between the drone brain I'm trying to get you and this new little tid bit, this derailing is far more interesting!

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-21 18:53:58 UTC
Nikita Alterana wrote:
And it is something greater that we must become.

A mother says to the child, "Be greater than I ever was."

The child, in confusion, fights against this. "I'm not great now? What is so wrong with me?"

The grandmother shakes her head, and turns away. She has seen it all before, and will see it time and time again.

We are all great. We are all small. We are all wise.
Nikita Alterana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-08-21 20:00:44 UTC
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara wrote:
Nikita Alterana wrote:
And it is something greater that we must become.

A mother says to the child, "Be greater than I ever was."

The child, in confusion, fights against this. "I'm not great now? What is so wrong with me?"

The grandmother shakes her head, and turns away. She has seen it all before, and will see it time and time again.

We are all great. We are all small. We are all wise.



Exactly. Humans have this fallacy that they are somehow strong, great powerful. That they are more then the insubstantial bags of flesh they inhabit, matters of soul and such. Its quiet a quaint notion. The notion that the average baseline human matters in any way shape or form. Everything is dust eventually. Empires fall, mountains turn to dust, cities turn to ruin. Time marches on, memories fade to myth, and myth to legend. Its easier to just accept that you don't matter, and give yourself fully over to someth--NO! This isn't right! This isn't m--

Enough. Sorry. Technically difficulty. I'm fine though, I assure you.

Ms. Ruutarhara, it has been quite a while, but I do believe I know you....interesting.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#27 - 2012-08-21 20:08:52 UTC
Nikita Alterana wrote:
Humans have this fallacy that they are somehow strong, great powerful. That they are more then the insubstantial bags of flesh they inhabit, matters of soul and such. Its quiet a quaint notion.

Are you suggesting capsuleers are non-human, or are you calling the concept of an infomorph 'quaint?'

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#28 - 2012-08-21 20:14:12 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Nikita Alterana wrote:
Humans have this fallacy that they are somehow strong, great powerful. That they are more then the insubstantial bags of flesh they inhabit, matters of soul and such. Its quiet a quaint notion.

Are you suggesting capsuleers are non-human, or are you calling the concept of an infomorph 'quaint?'


I was about to point this out, actually.

Nikita, your very existance shows that you are something more than meat. You are data. The meat shell which it inhabits has likely been tossed away like so much clothing on at least one or two occasions, yes?

You are getting depressive, and if that little outburst is anything to go by your are also getting a bit on the mentally ill side. Seek help.
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-08-21 20:25:00 UTC
Nikita Alterana wrote:
Exactly. Humans have this fallacy that they are somehow strong, great powerful. That they are more then the insubstantial bags of flesh they inhabit, matters of soul and such. Its quiet a quaint notion. The notion that the average baseline human matters in any way shape or form. Everything is dust eventually. Empires fall, mountains turn to dust, cities turn to ruin. Time marches on, memories fade to myth, and myth to legend. Its easier to just accept that you don't matter, and give yourself fully over to someth--NO! This isn't right! This isn't m--

We are all great. We are all small. There is no fallacy there.

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I'm fine though, I assure you.

It is not I who requires or asks for assurance.

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Ms. Ruutarhara, it has been quite a while, but I do believe I know you....interesting.

As the shadow knows the sun, that remains to be seen.
Nikita Alterana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-08-21 20:27:11 UTC
The capsuleer is a bit more then meat, but they too have a long way to go. The potential is there, its just a matter of finding someone with the vision to actually make that potentiality a reality. The infomorph is a step in the right direction, however, we must shed the notions of individuality that we so cherish if we are to reach our true potential.

And Tiberius, I'm fine, really, better then I've been in y--She's lyi--

Like I said, perfectly fine. I just need to finish ironing out my bugs and I'll be the best I've ever been. I finally understand. Its rather wonderful in fact.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#31 - 2012-08-21 20:40:45 UTC
You should have stayed dead.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#32 - 2012-08-21 23:44:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Valerie Valate wrote:
You should have stayed dead.


Being a fresh capsuleer in New Eden is like marrying into a massive, incestuous, and fratricidal Amarrian noble house. You have no idea what's going on or what the history is, but you can bet it's never pleasant.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#33 - 2012-08-22 16:48:38 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
You should have stayed dead.


Being a fresh capsuleer in New Eden is like marrying into a massive, incestuous, and fratricidal Amarrian noble house. You have no idea what's going on or what the history is, but you can bet it's never pleasant.


Incest sounds about right for Nikita, yes.

Along with all the other nonsense.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Anslo
Scope Works
#34 - 2012-08-22 16:49:52 UTC
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
Valerie Valate wrote:
You should have stayed dead.


Being a fresh capsuleer in New Eden is like marrying into a massive, incestuous, and fratricidal Amarrian noble house. You have no idea what's going on or what the history is, but you can bet it's never pleasant.


One hell of a metaphor...

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Dos Naari
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-08-22 17:40:04 UTC
Yet most befitting...
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#36 - 2012-08-24 20:33:02 UTC
Yes, well, you'll see.

Soon enough, the IGS will be subjected to a thread where Nikita says something like:
"Hey, hey guys, hey, listen, I found this Jovian Brain Parasite drone! What should I do with it?"
Then people will say "Don't touch it"
Then Nikita will say "Hey, hey guys, I've had this brilliant idea! I'm going to connect the brain parasite to my brain!"

And the whole scene unfolds with a certain tedious inevitability.

There'll be long strings of unintelligible gibberish, which people will say is "encrypted data bursts"
And badly formatted text from Nikita saying something about "ThE vOiCeS iN mY hEaD"
Then someone will say they found Nikita's dead body.

Everyone will say "Oh, how entirely unexpected. No-one could have foreseen that connecting a Jovian Brain Parasite to your brain was a Bad Idea"

Then Nikita will spring back from a jump clone, and say "help, an Amarrian Holder raped me!" to try and prevent people from criticising their foolishness.

And then in a few months, it happens again. Wahey!

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-08-24 21:20:27 UTC
Well, someone sure woke up on the wrong side of the Neocom this morning.

Valerie dear, if she's that annoying, go blow her up. I'll even help if you want. It's more constructive than the rambling you're doing now. In fact, you look far crazier than she does at the moment. I think you'll admit that's saying a lot.

Try putting the tinfoil back where it belongs and going outside for some fresh air. I promise; you'll spend far less time debating the merits of a particular individual's personal life--something that's none of yours or our business anyway--and far more time actually, you know, doing something you enjoy.

If you enjoy actually berating and bullying someone you think so little of, it speaks far greater volumes about you than it does her.

Trust me on this. Just let it go. It's not worth the frustration.

P.S.: I think you're thinking of me and not poor Nikita, dear. I must say, I'm rather hurt by the confusion. I'm even more hurt that you'd feel this way without actually ever speaking to me!

Blink
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#38 - 2012-08-24 23:48:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
If connecting a Jovian Brain Parasite to my brain is wrong, I don't want to be mhagggrrrgh!!.....

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-08-25 00:53:30 UTC
See? Everyone's doing it!

-Public Service Reminder-
Remember kids, if everyone else is doing it, you're obligated to try it at least once!

--Paid for by the Caldari Authority on Re-education and Enlightenment.
Nikita Alterana
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2012-08-25 13:12:44 UTC
Thank you for the defense Nikiruu, but I do understand why Ms. Valete may be irritated that I have not yet managed to permanently terminate my existence. She's correct that in the past I behaved quite erratically and illogically, and have caused some major disturbances. However, I don't think that will be an issue any longer. I'm feeling much better now. The rains have come, and my mind is finally calm. I'm actually happy. Really legitimately happy. Its quite wonderful.
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