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5 things every CEO should do to be successful in EVE

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#41 - 2012-08-13 04:25:10 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Stick around and I think that will happen more frequently. Smile

Does anyone agree with the 5 things I listed in the OP? Or have another attribute they feel is just as important? Cool


Maybe, Maybe not. Time will tell.




The Corp Wallet is not the CEO's personal reserve wallet.
The CEO's personal wallet is the Corps reserve wallet.
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#42 - 2012-08-13 05:45:54 UTC
Posting in a stealth Orca cargohold nerf whine thread.
Adeleda Adoudel
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2012-08-13 11:14:00 UTC
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:
Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:
The very sound of Makalu Zarya1's voice can cause Logi and Tengus to appear out of thin air.

pity they disappear in explosions just as quickly


Looks like someone does not know how to use Killboards, we don't field Tengus and Scimis unless we have a shot of wiping the enemy out.

Not to mention I got back from a fleet 15 minutes ago were we went all the way to Delve and back in a massive Tengu and Scimi fleet, and Test and friends decided it was to dangerous to undock, In 319.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AFpy5p9tdA

Jus sayin. Theres a vid with Lokis too ya know.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#44 - 2012-08-13 11:44:15 UTC
Your first post ever that was actually worth reading.
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2012-08-13 12:20:38 UTC
So now your the leader of an NPC corp am I reading that right? Hey james join a real corp and actually play the game.


Forum warriors please rip this hack to shreds.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.

Tiger Would
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-08-13 12:44:22 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Posting in a thread where I actually agree with something James 315 has said.

Stick around and I think that will happen more frequently. Smile

Does anyone agree with the 5 things I listed in the OP? Or have another attribute they feel is just as important? Cool



Sense of humor doesn't hurt

Once you think you have it all, you have actually become ignorant towards everything else.

T. Would

Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
#47 - 2012-08-13 12:55:41 UTC
James 315 wrote:
EVE has had a lot of amazing leaders, and a lot of amazingly terrible ones. What separates the good from the bad? How can good leadership help keep an alliance together--or cause an entire coalition of alliances to fall apart?

Ever since I seized control of a small chunk of highsec, people have been asking me for advice on how to be an effective leader in the context of EVE. (Okay, maybe not a lot of people, but enough to warrant a post.) As with so much else in this wonderful sandbox game of ours, many lessons can be applied to other contexts. Have a look, and offer your own insights. I'm sure they'll be great.

1. Become a leader for a reason.

If you want to become the leader of an EVE organization, you should first consider what you want to accomplish. If your only goal is to gain authority for its own sake, something is wrong. Leaders motivated only by getting titles tend to be failures--which doesn't help their ego in the long run anyway.

2. Level with people.

Even though they've given you authority, the people you're in charge of aren't idiots. A good EVE CEO will tell the truth to the members of his alliance even when things are difficult. Perhaps especially then. Remember, everyone in EVE has access to outside sources of information. If you aren't an honest source of info, your corp members will increasingly rely on others.

3. Keep the game enjoyable.

When players take on leadership responsibilities, they can fall into the trap of turning the game into a full-time job. For most people, this is made worse by the fact that administrative duties are among the most soul-crushing activities available. When the game stops being fun, you'll stop logging in. When your alliance is in danger, things will be even less fun, and you might--as so many alliance leaders have in the past--abandon the game when your alliance needs you the most.

4. Stay connected to the troops.

In larger organizations, the CEO will rely more and more on a small number of top-level advisors. This is natural, since it's impossible to lead a large group without delegating. But there's a danger of isolating one's self and losing touch with the grunts on the front line. When that happens, they'll look elsewhere for leadership. Meanwhile, your view may be skewed. Without knowing the experience of the average soldier, it will be difficult for you to know what they're capable of and what to ask of them.

5. Have confidence but admit when you're wrong.

Few things will put people off more than a leader who stubbornly refuses to admit an obvious mistake. A failure to admit and correct a mistake is another mistake. No one expects you to be infallible. However, don't go overboard in the other direction. If you're constantly changing your mind, you can't lead anyone.

Well, there you have it! If you follow these five simple rules you will probably be better than a good percentage of the corp and alliance leaders in EVE. What other advice would you offer people in positions of power? Smile


Poasting in a 'I confuse EVE with real life' thread...
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#48 - 2012-08-21 16:01:53 UTC
Christy D Floyd wrote:
So now your the leader of an NPC corp am I reading that right? Hey james join a real corp and actually play the game.


Forum warriors please rip this hack to shreds.

No, I am the leader of a section of highsec. As for the forum warriors, they're all on my side. Blink

Hestia Mar wrote:
Poasting in a 'I confuse EVE with real life' thread...

I disagree, I think there are principles of running an organization in EVE that also apply in non-EVE contexts. People are people, after all. Smile
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-08-21 16:47:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Skippermonkey
5 things every CEO should do to be successful in Tactical Knightmare

1. Drink tea
2. 'Key the mike' when you choke on said tea
3. **** on the Argies at every possible opportunity
4. Be aware that the moment your back is turned, your dog will puke on your bed, so remain vigilant
5. Remember that your duty is first and foremost to spend the corp wallet on Somer Blink

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-08-21 16:52:57 UTC
hey an advertising thread.

in reply to the bit after the advert OP, what kind of person sees a ladder and had to climb to the top?
[Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits?](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=199765)
Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#51 - 2012-08-21 17:20:26 UTC
look up "who needs a ceo?" from the videos of the previous fanfest.
Telegram Sam
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-08-21 17:25:13 UTC
Theangryhobo wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Posting in a thread where I actually agree with something James 315 has said.



oddly its not that long till 12.12.12



I thought it was 12.21.12?

It had to be revised to 12.12.12, so that it would be 666 X 2.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#53 - 2012-08-21 19:01:14 UTC
That's a cute OP, but totally and completely wrong.

Only one thing, and one thing only makes a good CEO.

You need the ability to gain the trust of your large membership so you can convince them to dump all their assets and ISK into the corp hangar and wallet right before you steal everything and kick them all out on thier sorry, trusting little asses.

'nuff said

Mr Epeen Cool
Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#54 - 2012-08-21 19:06:15 UTC
Telegram Sam wrote:
Theangryhobo wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Posting in a thread where I actually agree with something James 315 has said.



oddly its not that long till 12.12.12



I thought it was 12.21.12?

It had to be revised to 12.12.12, so that it would be 666 X 2.



Shocked
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
#55 - 2012-08-21 20:55:39 UTC
OP is Mittani's suicide gank alt. If he's not, what creditability does he have as a leader being in an NPC corp? just sayin.

How to be a good leader:
1.) Start obnoxious forum website full of trolls
2.) Charge your members real cash to join
3.) Make people join forums and pay for x amount of months before they are "blessed" to join fail alliance
4.) Make "prophetic" alt to suicide gank high-sec miners
5.) write super long winded manifesto's as if he has some merit
6.) Pay bounties to anyone who blows up ships you produce to get even richer
7.) Get drunk at CCP events and laugh about "suggesting" your goons make someone you don't know so completely miserable that they would commit suicide
8.) Get kicked or resign from CSM (whichever you choose to believe) and write a public apology for screwing up.
9.) Write said apology to save face with the community whom you have already been giving black eyes for years.

I'm sure many could add to this list. OP reminds of of the kid who thinks he's popular because he pushed everyone off the jungle gym in elementary school only when he doesn't realize that he is popular because people hate him not because he is a good person.
Skippermonkey
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-08-22 09:44:47 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
OP is Mittani's suicide gank alt. If he's not, what creditability does he have as a leader being in an NPC corp? just sayin.

How to be a good leader:
1.) Start obnoxious forum website full of trolls
2.) Charge your members real cash to join
3.) Make people join forums and pay for x amount of months before they are "blessed" to join fail alliance
4.) Make "prophetic" alt to suicide gank high-sec miners
5.) write super long winded manifesto's as if he has some merit
6.) Pay bounties to anyone who blows up ships you produce to get even richer
7.) Get drunk at CCP events and laugh about "suggesting" your goons make someone you don't know so completely miserable that they would commit suicide
8.) Get kicked or resign from CSM (whichever you choose to believe) and write a public apology for screwing up.
9.) Write said apology to save face with the community whom you have already been giving black eyes for years.

I'm sure many could add to this list. OP reminds of of the kid who thinks he's popular because he pushed everyone off the jungle gym in elementary school only when he doesn't realize that he is popular because people hate him not because he is a good person.

kill thyself

COME AT ME BRO

I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#57 - 2012-08-22 11:02:05 UTC
Your point 2 and point 5 are pretty much the same. P

Sound advice though! Cool

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-08-22 11:35:19 UTC
Theangryhobo wrote:
Kitty Bear wrote:
Posting in a thread where I actually agree with something James 315 has said.



oddly its not that long till 12.12.12



I thought it was 12.21.12?

It's 21.12.12 for those of us with a decent date format.
Warpshade
Warped Industries
#59 - 2012-08-22 11:39:47 UTC
James 315 wrote:
Does anyone agree with the 5 things I listed in the OP? Or have another attribute they feel is just as important? Cool


Charisma; I don't know if possibly it's a case of the 5 points you mention can lead to becoming charismatic, or just that there's more factors that lead to that. I would definately say I can Identify some people who have qualities of the 5 points you mention, yet I would'nt say they were necessarily charismatic, I do believe some people have it, and some just don't. I would say that point number 4 definately is in strong relation to charisma, but isn't quite the same.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#60 - 2012-08-23 14:47:09 UTC
arcca jeth wrote:
OP is Mittani's suicide gank alt. If he's not, what creditability does he have as a leader being in an NPC corp? just sayin.

How to be a good leader:
1.) Start obnoxious forum website full of trolls
2.) Charge your members real cash to join
3.) Make people join forums and pay for x amount of months before they are "blessed" to join fail alliance
4.) Make "prophetic" alt to suicide gank high-sec miners
5.) write super long winded manifesto's as if he has some merit
6.) Pay bounties to anyone who blows up ships you produce to get even richer
7.) Get drunk at CCP events and laugh about "suggesting" your goons make someone you don't know so completely miserable that they would commit suicide
8.) Get kicked or resign from CSM (whichever you choose to believe) and write a public apology for screwing up.
9.) Write said apology to save face with the community whom you have already been giving black eyes for years.

I'm sure many could add to this list. OP reminds of of the kid who thinks he's popular because he pushed everyone off the jungle gym in elementary school only when he doesn't realize that he is popular because people hate him not because he is a good person.

Eh, not really. What does The Mittani need a suicide gank alt for? Check his security status...The Mittani is The Mittani's suicide gank alt. Blink