Warfare & Tactics

Fweddit and Agony are different things.

Fweddit were a bunch of well meaning idiots that turned bitter like the rest of the Amarr when they found out they couldn't use force of numbers to steamroll the Minmatar.

I have already seen a ton of solo, small gang stuff from agony. Also, their local chat is more pleasant.

If you look at the solo kills for WEAZL I doubt you could point to an Amarr corp that has the same number of pilots that consistently solo. Q and penguins as well.

Whilst you are looking at those solo kills, please take not that they are mostly against a higher ship class, or if in a bigger ship, against higher numbers.

We would have more, but it is pretty difficult over the last year to find Amarrians flying solo. Obviously a few notable exceptions.

I got 5 solo kills yesterday on the Kam/Kourm gate. Not arranged, just taking chances. Surely that is taking a risk? What with all those Amarrians in local?

When have you ever camped an Arzad gate?

I know you are bitter about swapping to the Amarr and then finding pvp a bit harder, but stop exaggerating.

It is a well known fact that the Amarr blob, the Minmatar skirmish. That is why we consistently hold down such large areas with a relatively small number of pilots - people go out in small groups and do stuff. You guys wait till you have assembled your blob hammer and then trundle out to spam local with drivel. Why fight that when we can pick off stragglers and feast on your tears for not playing your version of eve?

Thank god Agony are here to give you guys some spine and demonstrate effective small gang pvp.

Also, those battle reports - you do know reshipping adds numbers?
Active pvpers change ships regularly, they don't just sit on station in something that can tank long enough to get reps.

Our 60 person corp:

http://ilaw.killmail.org/?a=awards

Is this the killboard for your alliance with 2xs the members of our corp?

http://rust-in-pieces.org/kills/?a=awards

Not all our kills are against people who don't even know they are in the minmatar militia.

you said: "If you look at the solo kills for WEAZL I doubt you could point to an Amarr corp that has the same number of pilots that consistently solo. Q and penguins as well."

Well it was pretty easy to find an amarr corp that has the same number of pilots that consistantly solo. There it is. Now you want to Nit pick individual kills and claim you aren't active. I have better things to do with my time.


Perhaps you do blob a bit more relative to amarr than you think. Just perhaps.

Its not full of high sec ganks, there is I beleive one person who did that one month. Month after month we outperform you on the solo kill front.

Oh and why not look at the only other established amarr corp that I know of, to see how they are doing on solo kills:

http://eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&view=pilot_solo&crp_id=105098&m=8&y=2012


Again half the members of your alliance but a more impressive number of solo kills.

I guess the real question, is can you find an amarr corp with a less impressive solo kill performance than your alliance.

And I like how you say I'm pedantic because I give actual numbers that prove your silly claims wrong.

Ah but your not active. Right. How far back do you need to go to find a time where your alliance did come compete with these amarr corps in solo kills? Thats right keep hitting "previous month" "previous month" "Previous month."

edit: Why did you even bring this up? Minmatar haven't been competitive on the solo kill front in years.

Says the minmatar cheerleader who is confronted with actual numbers that disprove his claim.


Again why did you bring this up, when you are easilly proved wrong?

It's raining ceatears.

Sadly the minmafarm will be coming back to you after they flip all the systems here.

I really wanted to force the minmafarm to be here longer - flipping 60 some systems instead of just 40 some systems. But Nulli started flipping systems too soon.

DCM - Please point on the Rifter Model where the nasty Iron Oxide touched you......


People like you leaving the Amarr in drones can ONLY be a good thing for the long term. Moaners/smackers/s**t talkers like yourself don't in any way encourage cohesion, or newer joiners to get involved, and are a good part of the reason why the Amarr are in this situation in the first place.

Maybe take a break from the **game** for a week, get over the pseudo butthurt, realise that you now have some quality PvP instructors in your old stomping ground that might be able to teach you some stuff in a semi adult manner. Try, just try for once, to make a smart decision.


> A genuine welcome to Agony, heard some great stories already and look forward to seeing you around. GF GF!

"If you'd lied about the war / been nicer / not dropped the F bomb when hilarious -- if only that, then you would've won! New people were scared away!"

But he's kinda right, you know.

I have a story about how mean people in Amarr FW are to new players: One day, jjohnpaul xvii was reported in Militia chat to be in Arayar in a Thrasher. So I went there, and found jjohnpaul xvii, Cynthia Nezmor, and a neutral I didn't know in local. Cynthia convo'd me while I was looking for jjohnpaul xvii, and we had this exchange. Roughly:

C: Hey, wretched disgusting noob. Are you here for jjohnpaul?

K: Yeah. I've got a beam Coercer. Plan is to start at range, burn away, see what I can do. Probably won't kill him, but if I can drive him off I can contest this system :-) I'll warp off before he gets close, if it won't work.

C: HA HA HA HA. First off, plexing is totally pointless. Don't even try to win.

K: ?? oh :-(

C: But otherwise, sounds like a good plan. Some of these guys have Loki boosts, you know?

K: Loki boosts? What do those do?

C: Nothing. They don't do nothing. But you're G2G to attack jjohnpaul xvii. He's clean.

K: Thanks!

C: DON'T YOU ******* THANK ME. NEW PEOPLE IN FW MAKE ME SICK.

K: ... well, I just want to say, if there were less people like you I think the Amarr would win!

C: *quits convo*

True story.

But for some reason I was unable to engage jjohnpaul xvii that day. And when I was trying to remember the neutral's name I found him in my contacts with 'terrible standing'??! Well, it was a long time ago.

Agony seem pretty cool so far. I was embarrassed to get ultra-countered by an AC Thrasher with tracking enhancers in front of one of 'em, after easily kiting and tanking thrashers all day in an AB+web+SAR Executioner.