Warfare & Tactics

What was obstacle to do it before? Minnies on themselves could not get their space back? That looks unlikely.
So You really do not want those systems anyway

Why would we want those systems?
LP farm > Some system we never use.
What good is Renarelle or a similar system to us if nobody lives there and plexing there doesn't make us anything?

Tarded people trying to condescend, its hilarious. I havent described minmatars tactic to defend their space without defensive plexing, its been mentioned multiple times on the forum already but you are obviously ignorant of it. The minmatar counter is NOT a counter to your plexing directly, its a counter to stacking up vulnerable systems which in turn opens up farming opportunities for them.

Gal space is in its down stroke part of the cycle. This is the part where you take the systems back and make some isk by upgrading them. After that, we farm them back and take them in our favour, upgrade them and make some isk. This cycle has been common knowledge for quite some time and im only a little surprised that it has passed you by. No one is bringing any alts in to defensive plex on any scale, so we just need you to do your part, flip the systems and let us stack them up as vulnerable.

The minmatar factor is that people are going to be plexing caldari systems for minmatar lp as the value of their lp is more reliable. This conversation is simply me trying to educate you to the fact that even if you reciprocate and plex for caldari lp in minmatar space, its not really going to put them under any pressure as they have implemented a way to take the pressure off by making it very difficult to stack their systems up as vulnerable, all without defensive plexing.

The reason the gals dont do this is basically because :effort:

I think the reason why you are confused is that you are basically role playing, saw the massive vp caldari are churning out and decided to brag a little. Im just pointing out a few factors that you clearly havent considered.

Are you stupid, a troll or did you just not notice that gallente just had in their possession nearly the entire warzone and still posses the majority?

Anyway, since you dont seem interested in reality and just want to trade jibes and epeen around in broken english, im going to be the biger man and apologise on your behalf. Fly safe.

It seems many are so proud of which faction can achieve most.

But honoestly, look at pilots in each faction. Minmatar have over 2000 more pilots than Amarr and caldari have nearly 10000 in total!

It's like 0.0, who ever can bring the most blobs, wins. Simple as that. So i dont see any credit going to anyone for either taking Kamela or anything alike. Lets be honest, you took kamela due to Amarr FW corps and alliances left.
Incl my own btw. We just got tired of running in to constant larger blobs.

So pilots are spread out like this atm (a guess would be 80% are alt farmers.):

Caldari vs Gallente: 9727 vs 7338 pilots

Minmatar vs Amarr: 7678 vs 5785 pilots

So in this case, damn straight some have the upper advantage of both plexing and deplexing systems.

What difference does it make if gal systems went back vuln faster? Does that mean that it isnt a cycle? Ive never said that caldari hasnt got a lot of farmers, i spent a month harvesting them after all, you included.

Thats what i can appreciate about the new system, caldari have a whole load more farmers, people who simply run away from fights in 'low-sec' because its more efficient to their wallets. The vast majority of whom care not for station lockouts but simply about isk. And gallente has still achieved tier 4 and got paid. Perhaps it takes us longer to hit tier 4 but it isnt really a consideration as that just means we have had longer to save up lp and have more to cash out with at once.

You are a bit of an exception in that you are strangely proud that you can hit a d-scan button and warp away at the first sign of danger. Most just farm in shameful silence knowing full well that the current system is basically fubarred and will have to be overhauled at some point to remove the massive incentive for pure isk farmers to effect actual PvP'ers ability to dock in places and more importantly earn isk to keep them in ships and keep isk moving in the economy through losses and kills.

Not sure why i keep feeding this troll. I think he is still hung up over http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=16735653
Shadow Serpentis Scram > 2 WCS lol.

Anyway, its been a pleasure speaking to you again. I hope come winter that you can still find a way to make isk for... whatever it is that you do.

Actually Caldari have had operations to help amarr, but every time it is amarr that refuses to accept help.

Last time we had operation to help amarr but nulli started to shoot us and they said that caldari has nothing to give.

Only thing we could give was tier5 but they did not want that.

And for Grosi Wesdo i like to say that only counter gallente or minmatar have against caldari has always been CCP and their actions to 'balance' game mechanics so that no one can take and keep all systems for ever.

This guy gets it. I'm a ****. No one in minmatar militia likes me, believe me when i say i make sure of that fact on my own. I am no victim. HOWEVER not a single minmatar had ever awoxed me especially duyouring a fleet op, he would be kicked and blacklisted , not because I'm snopecial but because its accepted that you do not do that ****. We are legion when it comes to this ****, you have no idea what you will be dealing with if you come here. We will **** you're **** up.

This guy is something else. Bringing you up to speed Schalac was told to F off like almost more than a year ago from an armor gaurdian fleet WBR was forming back when WBR where in Caldari. I think he had a thrasher or a drake if i recall correctly.

Anyway he was asked to leave fleet then started mouthing off at FIRST GENERAL and was naturally banned from WBR fleets. Boy some people are like camels/elephants and really hold a grudge.

Anyway as a caldari pilot these days I dont know where he gets off telling anyone 'we' are at the behest of his whimming commands and will rush to the aid of anyone he wants.

And who the hell are WBR supposed to admit they were wrong and apologize to anyway?

Not a WBR fanboi lord knows I left them awhile back and despise what they have become from what they were but just saying. Who are you again?

Um not sure who you are But i have noticed you have been responding to all of my post. So I'm going to ask you to stop hanging from my hairy bean bag as i am uninterested in your terrible attempts at trolling.

Thanks random person.