Crime & Punishment

How can you tell the difference if it's Concords involvement that denies insurance payouts or if it's the aggression itself? It's difficult to tell them apart because they both come hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.

I have a highsec kill where both Concord and I are on the KM yet I laid the final blow. (see original killmail tab).

We were both in corp together and he wanted to murder me. He taunted me to come out, so I quit corp and undocked. He and his buddy both engaged and Concord said hi. Got off a few shots but nothing substantial.

The thing is, when I was in his corp minutes before, we were both aggressed to one another and slugging it out. I docked to avoid death from his regular Domi. Not sure why he pulled the navy issue one out but he did.

Not quite sure how that mechanic worked but he was ultra pissed that he did not get any insurance payout.

Is it the death by concord that causes the no insurance payout, or is it the aggressive action against the innocent?

Can i ex. gank someone quick, and my corp mate alpha's me, so i still get insurance by dying before concord even shows up.?

from what i read on the wiki it tells me this

" Suicide attack someone in High-Sec (players destroyed by CONCORD do not receive an insurance payout). "

which makes the getting ganked by corp mate before concord shows up to keep insurance useable.