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A Crusader is always Neat and Tidy

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Horak Thor
Angry Mustellid
#21 - 2012-08-20 16:07:16 UTC
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Horak Thor wrote:


Instead they are posting in the forums about neatness, that sir is ********.


Almost as bad as taking the time to post complaints in the neatness thread, neh?



Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.

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Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-08-20 16:15:25 UTC
Horak Thor wrote:
Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.


I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Anslo
Scope Works
#23 - 2012-08-20 16:25:08 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
Horak Thor wrote:
Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.


I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.


Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-08-20 16:29:00 UTC
Anslo wrote:


No it's not extensive by comparison, I simply don't feel the need to justify myself to a "child" pilot flaunting an overly engineered lexicon in order to cover her own short comings. Creating an assumption regarding an individual's command of language based on a passe interaction while flaunting their own "linguistic abilities" is nothing but a sign of ignorance on their part.

I don't flaunt without need. Speaking plainly and in a straight forward manner is far better than honeyed words.

As to the location, if you did your research, you'd realize what I'm talking about.


Not the need to justify, but still the need to explain yourself, got it.

Let's review: You're getting petulant due to someone else's vocabulary, which might just be a new low for the IGS.

Once upon a time capsuleers argued over content, not delivery method.



And this "child" is older than you.... and based on your public pilot record quite a bit more stable with both regular employment and competency on the battlefield.

If you'd like to compare specific shortcomings on a per-item bases though I'd be happy to put my record in any area right against yours.

Back to the topic then?



Sabik now, Sabik forever

Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-08-20 16:29:51 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Azdan Amith wrote:
Horak Thor wrote:
Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.


I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.


Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands.



What's a bible? Also, you'd be incorrect in your understanding but I doubt you've bothered to do any real investigation into it so we'll just leave it there.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Anslo
Scope Works
#26 - 2012-08-20 16:39:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Silas Vitalia wrote:

Not the need to justify, but still the need to explain yourself, got it.

Let's review: You're getting petulant due to someone else's vocabulary, which might just be a new low for the IGS.

Once upon a time capsuleers argued over content, not delivery method.



And this "child" is older than you.... and based on your public pilot record quite a bit more stable with both regular employment and competency on the battlefield.

If you'd like to compare specific shortcomings on a per-item bases though I'd be happy to put my record in any area right against yours.

Back to the topic then?




I moved corps a lot, because I was bored. Battle field wise, sure you have more kills then me. I don't care. Put your record up against mine, please. I'll laugh at my losses. I had a good time. I'm still gonna call you, just like every other ******* egger, who acts and speaks like their some superior god. Deal.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Horak Thor
Angry Mustellid
#27 - 2012-08-20 16:41:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Horak Thor
Azdan Amith wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Azdan Amith wrote:
Horak Thor wrote:
Not much else to do since the amarr wont fight, or cant.


I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.


Pretty sure the only raping going on is from you bible thumpers with your minmatar slaves. The man's (Thor's) point still stands.



What's a bible? Also, you'd be incorrect in your understanding but I doubt you've bothered to do any real investigation into it so we'll just leave it there.


Maybe you dont understand the anger at having 1/3 of you people enslaved, no doubt you cant comprehend it being amarrian. but the constant knowledge that 1/3 of your race is toiling under unfavourable circumstances, and as i write this large percentages of the remaining heritage of my people are being brainwashed, or subjugated, its hard to put down our arms until this is rectified, for me, impossible.

The matari people displaced by the recent fighting are being helped as much as the republic can do so, myself being in the military arm of the organization, am better suited to protecting the space they are moving into, by force, each arm of the organization has its purpose mine is warfare, a duty im more than happy to carry out.

My vast wealth will be invested into ensuring more slaves are freed and brought back into the fold, if you believe the republic to be that poor that it cannot care for its own people without the help of a capsuleers finances, your sadly mistaken. (the fact my entire income is paid for by the republic should tell you that your assumption is false).

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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-08-20 16:48:39 UTC
Now I may be wrong here and I certainly am not privy to internal discussions within CVA, but I do seem to recall that when CONCORD authorized alliances to join the (utterly pointless) "faction war" that there was much debate over if CVA should get involved. If memory serves the decision was that CVA has spent so much time and effort in trying to maintain and strengthen Imperial order within Providence that they would not be diverting their attention to the warzone. By and large I'd wager that the average CVA member considers Providence to be their post or their station, so it seems rather silly to me for people to complain when a group who said they wouldn't get involved, doesn't get involved.

And yes, I'm sorry to go bursting any bubbles here, but this entire CONCORD regulated war truly is pointless in the grand scheme of things. Oh certainly systems change hands and the navies of each empire move in behind the capsuleer militia pilots to start building defenses and impose a new order on the planetside populations. However none of the stations ever change hands (correct me if I'm wrong there) and more importantly so many pilots seem to miss the rather important but somewhat subtle distinction CONCORD has made by designating "contested areas." That being the areas are contested. Officially, as far as CONCORD is concerned, the contested areas do not belong to any empire. One group might take a system, they might take all the systems in the contested area, but the fact remains that the whole area will still be contested. The Militias aren't claiming territory, they are playing a game of tag, and will continue to play the game of tag right up until CONCORD, on a whim, decides to stop the game.

Back to the original topic though, regardless of what someone might say, there is definitely value in a military man or woman maintaining a professional appearance whenever possible. A well groomed and smartly dressed servicewoman can inspire the population they serve, not to mention the other military persons that see them. That inspiration can foster a sense of unity and pride in the people that see it as well as those in uniform. Now of course the best dressed side doesn't win every battle, but the most inspired, the most driven, and the most dedicated side seems to win more, and appearances can and do build that drive and dedication in some, perhaps most, people.
Horak Thor
Angry Mustellid
#29 - 2012-08-20 16:57:33 UTC
Uraniae Fehrnah wrote:
However none of the stations ever change hands (correct me if I'm wrong there).


Confirming i am correcting you because you are wrong.

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#30 - 2012-08-20 17:17:51 UTC
Well this thread escalated quickly.

Katrina Oniseki

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#31 - 2012-08-20 17:44:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Makkal Hanaya
Silas Vitalia wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Sorry but I'd take a scruffy looking pilot who actually fights than some trim and tidy high and mighty God-lover sitting pretty in a backwater nul sec watching the rest of the world burn. Egotistical jack ass...


To most of the cluster and most capsuleers with a modicum of common sense the disputed factional-warfare 'territory' is the backwater, idiot.

I admit, it's difficult to find a simple brioche in Kourmonen.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-08-20 18:04:35 UTC
Horak Thor wrote:

Maybe you dont understand the anger at having 1/3 of you people enslaved, no doubt you cant comprehend it being amarrian. but the constant knowledge that 1/3 of your race is toiling under unfavourable circumstances, and as i write this large percentages of the remaining heritage of my people are being brainwashed, or subjugated, its hard to put down our arms until this is rectified, for me, impossible.


On the contrary Mister Thor, I do understand your anger. I've taken the time and invested in listening to and understanding many Minmatar, I even have something of an uneasy friendship (or at least mutual respect) with several. I would like to emphasize that you insist they are suffering (which is a general statement and not entirely truthful), that they are toiling in unfavorable circumstances (which again is a broad generalization and also untrue, especially when compared to the "conditions" the Republic has to offer for many of its own citizens).

Horak Thor wrote:
The matari people displaced by the recent fighting are being helped as much as the republic can do so, myself being in the military arm of the organization, am better suited to protecting the space they are moving into, by force, each arm of the organization has its purpose mine is warfare, a duty im more than happy to carry out.


Of this, I have no doubt. The problem is that your concern, in your own words:

Horak Thor wrote:
Not only is this a massive strategic victory but it means the complete destruction of enemy morale. one final step closer to total victory, one final step closer to no enemy to fight :/


Note the inserted "emoticon" at the end, shall we? The disappointment and concern that you will no longer have an enemy to fight. Echoed in this thread with "nothing better to do since the Amarr won't, or can't, fight." Your interest is in the fight, not in the liberation of your people, which you're using as a front, an excuse.

Horak Thor wrote:
My vast wealth will be invested into ensuring more slaves are freed and brought back into the fold, if you believe the republic to be that poor that it cannot care for its own people without the help of a capsuleers finances, your sadly mistaken. (the fact my entire income is paid for by the republic should tell you that your assumption is false).


I never insinuated that the Republic is too poor to tend to its own, only that it has done so poorly in the past. Furthermore, I offered you a suggestion on an alternative use of your funds than continued warfare, but you've made it clear that you've no interest in such things.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Iron Men of the Hood
#33 - 2012-08-20 23:28:28 UTC
Horak Thor wrote:

Last i checked best place to start an arguement with an alliance member is in public, welldone.



I don't argue, I educate.
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#34 - 2012-08-20 23:33:08 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:

I would suggest turning your attention inward and using a portion of your, no doubt not insubstantial, wealth and assets to provide for the planetside populations within the Republic and the space you've recently wrested. I know it can be a daunting task to try and focus on something other than endless combat, pillaging, murdering and raping; but I do encourage you to try it.


My, for someone who's supposedly got a grudging respect for the Minmatar people and someone who wants to appear as a reasoned and calm voice you've written a lot of racist stereotypes in that paragraph. Care to explain yourself, pilot?

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Azdan Amith
Doomheim
#35 - 2012-08-20 23:41:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Azdan Amith
Anabella Rella wrote:

My, for someone who's supposedly got a grudging respect for the Minmatar people and someone who wants to appear as a reasoned and calm voice you've written a lot of racist stereotypes in that paragraph. Care to explain yourself, pilot?


I believe you've taken my statement as if it were intended for all Minmatar, it was not. It was quite pointedly aimed at the one individual whom I quoted and I fail to see where it was racially charged.

Also, I do not believe I've ever claimed a desire to appear as a reasoned and calm voice. I am simply who I am and there is nothing more to it. I do try to be reasonable and calm but I admit I can become frustrated and speak in error, I am far from perfect. I also admit that my words were overly harsh as I've been very frustrated today with a number of things.

The activities listed have occurred in the past but I should not have attributed them to the present without substantial proof of them and should not have accused this individual pilot of them. For that, I was in error and I extend my apologies (for what little they're worth). The original claim that I would suggest diverting attention inward and helping planetside populations remains, however.

~Archon Azdan Amith,  Order of Light's Retribution

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#36 - 2012-08-21 00:23:52 UTC
Azdan Amith wrote:
What's a bible?

It's a archaic word for 'book.' I assume he's complaining about those big, impressive words people use.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Dos Naari
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-08-21 01:01:15 UTC
This is exactly why I prefer freelance work. As freelancers my crew and I aren't obliged to abide by any uptight military dress code, often we run around the ship performing our duties in sweats, because let's be honest, the last thing one worries about on a 28 jump trade haul between Federation and Republic space is how shiny their shoes are. Roll

And maybe in the end that's what it boils down to, those who have the time, for whatever reason, are more concerned about the shine of their shoes and if their collar is properly starched than those out there on the trade lanes earning their income one jump at a time.
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2012-08-21 01:18:49 UTC
Seems like nobody in this thread has had their crew telling them "crud, the clothes washer is busted and we won't be able to fix it 'til we hit station" while you're out in the depths of Anoikis...still managed to accomplish the mission, though, even if everyone needed extended hot showers and brand-new clothes afterwards.
Dos Naari
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-08-21 01:31:57 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:
Seems like nobody in this thread has had their crew telling them "crud, the clothes washer is busted and we won't be able to fix it 'til we hit station" while you're out in the depths of Anoikis...still managed to accomplish the mission, though, even if everyone needed extended hot showers and brand-new clothes afterwards.
lol yea, or being caught three days out in the Wildlands with a bad warp core coolant injector so you have to divert water from the showers, because for some strange reason the Thukker can manage to cobble together ships from scrap, but they never seem to have parts for old State haulers. Ugh
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#40 - 2012-08-21 02:13:09 UTC
My crew smells of vanilla and coconut at all times.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.