Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I expect I would get an earful from him and Kovorix if it wasn't for the fact that he completely ignores frigates.

Yes any change that extends the length of fights and makes killing key ships quickly harder makes soloing harder, and that's something we knew going into this. In the end we believe that the options this gives small gangs and new pilots outweighs the downsides.

We have not forgotten solo pilots, even though this ship class does make things somewhat harder for them.

I fear it makes soloing impossible. killing frig sized targets can be extremely hard. This forces you to kill them first, while they are tanking hundreds or thousands of applied dps

I'm looking forward to fly a T2 Navitas one day...

Force multipliers as strong as logi should not be on throwaway disposable hulls

unlike eaf ewar remote reps stack infinitely.
There is no reason to not spam these ships and b
put every single new player in one

It will make solo harder only in the sense of you, a solo pilot, engaging more than one person at a time. It wouldn't be 1v1, it would be 1v2. If you honestly expect your single ship to be able to counter two ships of equal size and the like, I'm not sure what to tell you. EVE is not fundamentally a solo game. Solo can be fun, but solo activities are not the baseline by which we should measure the utility of ships or modules. The corporation is, after all, the fundamental unit of organization in the game.

This is not an RPG where you are the Big Hero who takes on All The Bad Guys at once. While incredibly skilled (and sometimes lucky) pilots can take on multiple enemies at once and survive, this is the exception rather than the norm by mechanics and design.

Basically having super low sig, low skill requirement, super cheap logi is very bad for the game.

They scale without stacking penalty and work well even with poor skills. The benefit they give is out of proportion to both their in game cost and the player skill required to use them. Fighting them requires disproportionate effort, particularly if they are massed (which they will be).

I support your other changes fozzie, but this is a bad, bad idea.

An SFI, a cruiser designed from the ground up to be death to frigates would be unable to fight 2 probes and a merlin. A vagabond or cynabal, also designed as frigate killers would be similarly useless. A dual web autocannon hurricane would at best be able to escape from them with its neuts, and would be unable to break the tanks.

This gives a LARGE advantage for having SMALL advantage in numbers, and the nature of the advantage is one you cannot counter with piloting skill, but only with your own blob with ecm or high alpha anti frigate ships.

About rep.

I suppose you keep the transfert shield in the beginning of the cycle and for the armor in the end ?

I hope that the armor cycle will be faster ( Faster cycle but less HP repair).

Small Remote Armor Repair system II

Now : duration 4.5 s / 96 HP (HP / S 21.333)

wait not to make

duration 3 s / 64 HP (HP / S 21.333)

That will be really great for the small ship. Because the time to lock your friend, to put the remote and your repair work. It's really long for a small ship.

The freg size will be very interesting perhaps too much for fregate only t1.

When i was in null-sec, i flew logistics exclusively.

Most fights started with a series of blue flashes lasting maybe 15 seconds.
It was all our light tackle getting annihilated by a few Lokis or other frigate killers and droneswarms.
Because we were usually at range, we rarely able to save our frigs since they were very close to the enemy.
As a logistics pilot this made me very sad .

With these new logistics frigates (and a few smartbombs to take care of droneswarms) the hostiles would require more than a few Lokis to keep the light tackle at bay.

I'm not sure I buy into this at all...
Frig's needed a global speed increase (+15% ish) to increase their survivability and better separate them from nano cruisers.

Moar logi really address the things that disproportionately make frigs exceptionally weak, eg, alpha, neuts and ecm - more so, they become even more prevalent.