Player Features and Ideas Discussion

My immediate gut reaction was "Well Done!", this certainly has the potential to shake up frigate combat and introduce some very fun mechanics into smaller hull combat. Needs testing though.

One concern I have is that this is going to further encourage multiboxing. Where currently everyone and their grandma has an off-grid booster and call it "solo", now they're going to have one more account for this "pocket healer". I mean it's great for CCP income-wise, but this will wreck a new player experience. Remember, no sane new player is going to pay for 2-3 subs (edit: especially now that F2P+store is becoming the norm, see SWTOR, GW2, etc.), and he won't be able to PLEX his account for a while, probably a month or two at best. When most people a new player fights, even at frigate level, are off-grid boosted AND logi-repaired, even ignoring the obscene advantage that the SP they have gives them...well...it just ain't gonna be fun.

Yes, I know, "join corp", "make friends", etc. All valid, but it still makes me ponder if this is pushing the game a little too much in the direction of "mandatory altagolism".

A merlin with one of these repping it gets nearly a 300 dps tank. That is nearly unbreakable in a 1v1 situation with another frigate, even a gank fitted enyo.

Edit: "oh, so just go kill the logi frigate" - these frigs are faster than assault frigates, gl with catching them while scrammed and webbed.

My only question is: are we getting t2 versions of these? Purely as a stepping stone to real logi and something more skill intensive for small frigate gang enthusiasts

I'm not going to rule out creating t2 versions of these someday, but the t1 versions are all that's coming for winter and t2 versions would be a somewhat more difficult balancing problem if we ever do them.

Looks good on paper but if I remember correctly, most of the time in Frig Roams most frigs insta-pop even in small pvp engagements. New Logi pilots --- needed to learn how to be frustrated? I dont ever remember frig fights where I had enough time to even broadcast for reps never mind lock someone else and provide them. Exercise in futility, 0 for 2 with CCP F.uck it up. First making mining worthless again and now this? Maybe you want to to try your luck at drawing pretty laserz in the graphics department, management might feel like they are getting something for that paycheck.

When will you introduce equally powerful cheap-ass mini-Titans with jump-portaling ability? This will be perfectly in line with CCP general idea of making everything available to everyone.

I don't think these will overpower AFs and the like, as Michael suggests. While they will provide significant tank to a teammate, if they decide to fit a MWD they will cap themselves rather quickly. They can choose to either do their intended purpose of repping, OR avoid the pursuing badass AF.

Think of them as the fat kid sharing candy. They can sprint faster than the bully...but not for long!

So if you use carriers to rep POSs, you use these to rep GSCs? :D

the Healing Burst Looking forward to flying it !

But if there's a logi frigate it's no longer a 1v1, it's a 1v2. Add a second ship on the other side and the picture changes a lot (or swap the logi frigate for another Merlin and the picture stays pretty similar).

Also keep in mind that the mass on these ships changes their speed when ABing and MWDing. They're already fairly slow (the Burst (335m/s) is closer to the speed of a Punisher (330m/s) than the speed of a Rifter (355m/s)). And with a MWD running the Enyo is actually the same speed as a Navitas since the Enyo has significantly lower mass.