Warfare & Tactics

I appreciate that you people feel pissed off at the pve gunless yada yada. But you are sadly mistaken if you think that your core systems are being taken by null bear alts. You are accountable for your losses.

Rather than whine about it I suggest you come up with a plan. The truth is you now live in a target rich environment, adapt and you will profit. The wheel will turn and shortly after we get our medals there will be an exodus of pvpers from the Minnie front because there's nothing to shoot.

The 'fun economy' is this game far more important than the isk economy.

Since we're now out of it i'll try to give an objective view of how things went down slightly prior to Inferno up until now, remember that in the end this is still just my view:

Prior to Inferno Minmatar made a big concerted plex effort to plex and conquer a great many systems - well done. Your dedication at spinning buttons was/is commendable.

As Inferno hit, you pushed even harder and you forced us to fight you till the it did. Lots of fun was had in that time for both parties involved.

After Inferno hit and it was still new, Minmatar had the upper hand on system control constantly with the ability to hit Tier 5 at will. Congratulations on this again very commendable effort. I wouldn't say that achieving this through the capture of systems prior to Inferno where we all agreed that it was a broken mechanic, was a gentleman's way of winning though. Regardless, well done.

Amarr then, at first a minority (mostly Lost Obsession) - later the rest of Amarr Militia too - figured out that it would be pointless as well as counterproductive to build a counterpressure to what at the time I referred to as the 'Minmatar Plex army onslaught'. So we adapted. We let you guys do the heavy lifting and conquer and plex systems and we farmed the hell out of your Tier 5 store you so conveniently gave us. More heavy assets than I can count were acquired through your efforts of the Tier 5 store. Thank you Minmatar, you made your enemies rich too.

Then there was the Goon fiasco. While the impact of the Goons on the Minmatar Warzone control is not easily quantifiable it had one significant impact: Morale. The surge Amarr Militia had felt as Inferno hit was effectively gone. This was also the time that the last of the smart players in Amarr Militia adapted and started farming the Minmatar LP store and just went out for PvP anytime the Minmatar weren't just running around trying to only capture plexes and avoid PvP.

And yes, maybe some of the criticism against Lost Obsession is justified. We were the group with the most firepower available within all of Amarr Militia (right up until Nulli joined). We were however never the group with the most manpower available. Since plex the plex conquest favors numbers over assets & firepower we never saw the purpose of throwing ships into the meat grinder when we could instead do what we always do which is get big fights anywhere we can.
Being the group with the most firepower available a great many in Amarr Militia expected us to lead them to get them into our fleets, to lead them to victory and to blow up Minmatar. The record shows that we took Amarr Militia into our fleets as soon as goals for Amarr Militia needed to be achieved (which we pushed for from time to time) and then led them when trying to achieve these goals that would benefit all of Amarr Militia. But in those times we never put our expensive stuff on the line for people who would not show up with what was asked. The people who could be counted on to fly the same expensive stuff we did, always got invitations to join us on our 'extracurricular activities' and are still receiving them. So maybe the criticism isn't all that justified after all.

In the end, we play the game exactly how we choose to and we will continue to do so as long as we're around. We don't owe anybody anything (We owe our friends everything).

Thanks for all the good fights Minmatar, thanks for fighting the good fight Amarr, we enjoyed flying alongside and against most of you.

Last but not least, congratulations for 'winning the war' Minmatar. I'm sure you can pat yourselves on the back now. We will see if my predictions of your lack of foresight in terms of enemy management will come true. My bet was that as soon as you'd 'win the war' your targets would dry up and you'd have basically killed your own PvP grounds yourselves, but we'll see if that happens or not.

Oh by the way, we're not leaving the area, put more big stuff (bigger than Battlecruisers) into space and we shall have glorious explosions =)

Oh please god tell me you're moving into the heart of minmatar space to wreck havoc upon the minmatar.

If not...I'm changing my stance on abortion from pro-life to pro-choice.

The Reclaiming has begun!

For the Empress!

Bamarr Victor and all that jazz.



Agony is looking forward to more fighting, it's been fun so far. Even if, as Roigon says, we're new to the mechanics, being a nullsec group and all. People not aligning to gates, different fleet doctrines from what we're used to and such kind of screwed us over the last few days, but we're learning.

Farmarr Victor

didn'twantthosesystemsanywaywe'restillwinningeventhoughwe'relosingit'sallCCPsfaultRAAAAAEGpredmadeaprofitonthis

ERMAGERD

Quoting this so people read it again and laugh as hard as I did.

Thank you for providing quality entertainment good sir.

Pre Ineferno PLEXing meant nothing to no one in W-BR and we enjoyed our fights in faction warfare while the PLEX lovers PLEXed and everyone was happy (or not, who cares, we were).

Now PLEXing is linked to having fun in FW and we still don't PLEX.

Remember EVE is a computer game that people should play to win but also to have fun (what is the goal of being bored to death by your leisure time activities, that’s what chores are for). My point is that PLEXing is for me the most boring activity in EVE. It even surpasses sitting on a coach in CQ it’s that boring.

Most of FATE feel the same, so ..... we decided to go have our fights in a system that does not impose such a mechanic on us.

Once again you have won the great PLEXING war of our time and Kam and Kourm were not taken by gunless alts (for all other systems I have more doubts)! So grats.

But we leave not because we don't fight but because we don't want to PLEX to win.

And to be honest I am amazed that the people who do PLEX still find motivation to log in to play the game.

To each his own way of having fun.

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