Warfare & Tactics

They have three devs doing the rebalancing project. It's starting to pick up speed. By the time they get to command ships and T3's this conversation may be moot. You may have alot more tools (HACs actually being worth something) so the same cookie cutter strategies might not seem so criticial.

While unrealistic perhaps fleet position should be a limiting factor. From a BC/T3 at squad level up to titan at fleet level with Fleet command ships at the wing level. Squad makeup then matters and the leader effectively runs the squad. Wing commanders pass links down but there efficiency is reduced. Capital ships in Fleet command get a boost and pass down to everyone.
With that said if you remove the command processor from the equation you dont have to worry about on grid vs off grid boosting. A T3 limited to one booster off grid is far less effective. A command ship off grid may be effective but is easy to prob. A capital off grid may offer more but it is by far at more risk away from the fleet it is boosting.

With this roles are defined. You can off grid boost with escalating risk to the ship size vs boost to fleet.
T3 / Field Commands are better served in the fight with bigger boosts to a single squad while Fleet Commands capitals can function on or off grid with more risk.

What does off-grid boosting add to the game that justifies it violating EVE's risk/reward structure and combat paradigm, contributing to alt-proliferation pvp requirements, and fundamentally undermining solo-pvp?

Thats like saying is wrong for somebody to warp off because I'm too lazy to use a warp scrambler.

Everything has a counter, if OGBs bother you THAT much... learn to probe. Stop whining to CCP like some kinda miner.

On grid would only hurt the smaller gangs. Nerf the amount they give instead, a tengu for example makes an active shield tanked ship more than 2.20x times stronger, add implants and it's around 3,20-3.40 times stronger. A large shield boosting Cyclone goes from tanking about 300 dps with heat to almost 1k dps.

hi, you can tank a 3-link t3. (if you want to do a flat-out tank rather than nano-based, use a CS)

[Loki, Super-Nano Claymore]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Co-Processor II
Caldari Navy Co-Processor

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Command Processor I
Command Processor I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Loki Defensive - Warfare Processor
Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Chassis Optimization


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x6

[Tengu, Nano-Vulture]
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Co-Processor
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Command Processor I
Command Processor I
Large Shield Extender II
Caldari Navy EM Ward Field
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Siege Warfare Link - Active Shielding II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Efficiency II
Siege Warfare Link - Shield Harmonizing II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe I
'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Mjolnir Rocket

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Tengu Defensive - Warfare Processor
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Tengu Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor

for armor HACs:

[Loki, AHAC Wing Commander]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Armor Explosive Hardener
True Sansha Armor Kinetic Hardener

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Command Processor I

Skirmish Warfare Link - Evasive Maneuvers II
Skirmish Warfare Link - Rapid Deployment II
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Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Loki Defensive - Warfare Processor
Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Loki Engineering - Supplemental Coolant Injector
Loki Offensive - Hardpoint Efficiency Configuration
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x11

I agree that there is plenty of ships that can boost but it would be much easier for a large gang to keep a t3 link ship safe on grid and in that case they get a massive advantage. If it gets nerfed it should affect everyone, from a solo pilot to big gangs. If one side can use t3 links while the other can't, you have to either bring more pilots or don't fight at all. Atleast now both sides
can use it.

They should still nerf the boost amount down to someting like 20%. Right now there is no reason not to use it, even solo frigate pilots use them. Will on grid only fix that? Probably not. Bring the bonus down low enough so you have to actually make ships/fits around it to make links effective instead of using links for everything. While it still gives a good bonus for large fleet fights.

Actually, it can be a tad annyoing to probe out your npc-corp booster alt in a crowded highsec rvb system whilst you're happily killing rvb frigs with a little help from your 'friend'.

I was calling exactly that out. Why should we have too? Now I do have a max skilled and planted probe alt. Coincidentally he is also my main leadership booster alt. But why should we have to have all of these skills to find a 1 month old alt? You know what. I gave up on the T3 booster. I will not use it even though I could get literally sick resists and point range from using it. I refuse to stoop to that level. I find it dishonest and cheesy. So I did the next best thing. I put him in a drake and had him fly with the rest of my gang. Now some will say loldrakes, and they are. But I am just getting used to flying with 5 characters in PVP and losing fantastically. But when I get the hang of it I have plenty more fleet formations that are topping at 6000+ DPS with only 5 people in them and the booster will be on grid for it.

Now I will agree that leadership skills should account for something. They are awesome to have in even the smallest of frig gangs. So here is a simple solution.

All leadership skills work within the system you are in, but gang links only work on grid with the booster. So when you are offgrid you still get the basic boosts for a leader. When your booster is on grid though you get massive enhancements to your stats.

the best way to solve this is to not allow any module activation while being inside a pos bubble