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Geoscape

Imperial Academy

Amarr Empire

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#21 - 2012-08-18 19:08:28 UTC | Edited by: Geoscape

I remember an E-Uni FC who called new targets by their first 3 letters (Nato alphabet) while existing targets were called by the name.

Example: "primary Golf Echo Oscar"

You may laugh but it worked very well. Rather than having to learn the myriad of different ways to pronounce all the various names we only had to learn the 37 pronunciations for the characters. It is also much easier to recall than complete names.

Abdiel Kavash

Deep Core Mining Inc.

Caldari State

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#22 - 2012-08-18 20:15:37 UTC | Edited by: Abdiel Kavash

Always broadcast targets, there is a hotkey for broadcasting for a reason. Nobody should be locking anything that isn't broadcasted (except for antisupport and tackle, who won't be shooting the primary anyway). Deciding which one of the three targets you have locked the FC called is elementary school level of challenge - heck even CFC fleets sometimes manage to get it mostly right.

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Fairren HellrisCorp Likes received: 61	#23 - 2012-08-19 01:19:29 UTC \| Edited by: Fairren Dan Osiris wrote: I'm waiting for someone to create a pvp toon named 'Primary Primary' or similar to that extent. like that

Nothing Comes To Mind Snuffed Out 2,233
Papa Sotken Nothing Comes To Mind Snuffed Out Likes received: 2,233	#24 - 2012-08-19 03:00:30 UTC Had this discussion recently. Although names misheard can cause mishaps. The 3 letters thing is just alot more difficult. Ship type + name. Zebra Corp

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Aaewen Hrothgarson eXtreme Co SLYCE Pirates Likes received: 29	#25 - 2012-08-19 08:44:49 UTC \| Edited by: Aaewen Hrothgarson 1 I prefer them to broadcast. Secondly, I wish for them taking their time to name the target. Better 5 seconds and everybody understands than three times three seconds and still no one has a clue. Also getting overexcited and repeat yourself over and over (in a voice that is suddenly one octave higher) makes one look bad as a FC.

SB Rico

Sumo Wrestlers

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#26 - 2012-08-19 09:46:23 UTC

From a brain processing point of view it is worth noting that the human brain tends to process beginnings and ends of words to identify a word, if a word cannot be identified in this way the brain then processes the letters in order.

So...

For identifiable names the best way to make them quickly locatable is to read them, for names which are not actual words/names the first three letters is better

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RavenPaine

RaVeN Alliance

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#27 - 2012-08-21 05:09:32 UTC | Edited by: RavenPaine

Aaewen Hrothgarson wrote:

I prefer them to broadcast.

Secondly, I wish for them taking their time to name the target. Better 5 seconds and everybody understands than three times three seconds and still no one has a clue.

Also getting overexcited and repeat yourself over and over (in a voice that is suddenly one octave higher) makes one look bad as a FC.

I liked this a lot. The best way to fight is when your calm. PvP does pump you up (or it wouldn't be fun), but getting overamped is like a disease, it can spread to the whole fleet. That attitude starts with the FC.

I have a 'thing' about names in eve. I try to get them right and I look at them closely. Same with solar systems/gates.
If a guy pronounces names reasonably close, I find them right away.

When I call, I use names, and then ship type. 'Bob in the Brutix' for instance. And as Rico said, some names just have to be spelled out. xHxHx in the Cane for example. (real player)
What I am bad at, is broadcasting. I need another fleet member to do that for me if possible.
FC is usually looking at overview, mentally sorting targets, listening to comms, flying his own ship, counting wrecks, pods, missing pilots, etc.

A lot of this is dependant on the fleet makeup.
If you know all the guys in fleet, and they know you, then it goes smooth no matter how your style is.
But if it's a fleet of newbs and strangers? Half of them prolly won't shoot the primary anyway... They are too busy freaking out or flying away.

To the OP Deen, I think its reasonable to put that responsablity on THEM, the fleet members. You call it how you like and they need to figure it out or die. The word "Primary" seems to be the one they don't comprehend sometimes. And the killmails will show you who isn't listening.

Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 1,863
Skippermonkey Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State Likes received: 1,863	#28 - 2012-08-22 11:38:25 UTC Julius Foederatus wrote: Well then people from Yorkshire are either not english, or don't speak english, cause no one can ******* understand them. http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/25359019.jpg COME AT ME BRO I'LL JUST BE DOCKED IN THIS STATION

Moonlit Raid

Doomheim

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#29 - 2012-08-22 16:30:57 UTC

Geoscape wrote:

I remember an E-Uni FC who called new targets by their first 3 letters (Nato alphabet) while existing targets were called by the name.

Example: "primary Gamma Echo Oscar"

You may laugh but it worked very well. Rather than having to learn the myriad of different ways to pronounce all the various names we only had to learn the 37 pronunciations for the characters. It is also much easier to recall than complete names.

Someone didn't know their NATO alphabet then. G is Golf.

If brute force isn't working, you're just not using enough.

Please Note: Any advice given comes with the caveat that nothing will be suitable for every situation.

RavenPaine

RaVeN Alliance

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#30 - 2012-08-22 18:10:52 UTC

Skippermonkey wrote:

Julius Foederatus wrote:

Well then people from Yorkshire are either not english, or don't speak english, cause no one can ******* understand them.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/25359019.jpg

We had a Yorkie chap in another game I played. Was a great guy,
BUT:
Even the other Britts had to sort out what he was saying sometimes. Made for a lotta lol's.

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