Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A tech II ship that can make a Cyno inhibitor bubble, just like the heavy interdictor.
its a 60km in diameter bubble that inhibit ships to jump using the cyno.
as soon as the Cyno inhibitor ship is destroyed the bubble collapse and the cyno is free to be jumped through.

limitations:
-Cyno inhibitor consume fuel.
-need cyno skill to level 5
-the ship can't move waile using the Cyno inhibitor.
-the ship can't use active modules waile using the Cyno inhibitor.

i think he means something that can be dropped on that cyno drake to stop the whole fleet from coming through. and it in itself in not a cyno or disruption bubble. only neutralizes cyno portals.
I have no opinion on this at this time.

The idea is to balance the cyno problem..
everybody knows that cyno is overpowered.

In my idea when the bubble covers the cyno it doest switch off, it just inhibits ships jumping on it signal.
so if the cynoing ship outlast the ship with the cyno bubble, it can call for more ships.

I disagree, This ship would only be necessary in certain situations; it would be useful in most situations but not necessary.

Just like the falcon would be great to have in almost all situations but not necessary.

I feel like this module would add a strategic aspect to fleet combat as you could allow half of the fleet to bridge through and stop the other half coming through.


This is not different from my idea, though in my idea, popping the cyno bubble is always the right thing to do, IE there is no decision making, its always good to have the bubble up.

If you made it ONLY prevent new cynos from going up when the bubble is up but not affect cynos already in place, then you could use the script to prevent ships from coming through a cyno thats already up.

Now, it isnt just "pop the bubble as soon as we're on grid" but now its a decision whether or not the cyno is already up. You could even use two of the modules, one to blockade a cyno thats already up and the other to make a bubble preventing other cynos from going up.

I'd rather see a jumping delay for all cynos than some specialized module on a specialized ship.

no i understand YOUR idea, i just dont like it as much as MY idea

with your idea, there is no reason to not pop the bubble; there isnt anything better the ship could be doing.

my idea is to make the module do two things:
1. unscripted - pops a bubble that prevents new cynos from going up - does not affect open cynos at all
2. scripted - target the ship launching the cyno to prevent ships from coming through the cyno it just put up.

If you wanted both effects you would have to fit two modules, kinda like the heavy dictor right now.

Instead of preventing the ships from coming through at all, I would say it disrupts the cyno field causing inbound ships to land in a more random way, say some random distance from the cyno where the distance of 90% of the ships is on grid (within 400KM), 99% of all ships are within 1AU and 1% of all the ships land just somewhere within the system.

This way, disrupting the cyno could scatter the incoming fleet all over the grid, making it easier to separate and destroy them. Or for smaller fleets to escape.

I don't think that straight up blocking the cyno is very balanced.

The next time I'm camping lo sec with my Erebus I'll be f****ing sure to pack one of these then.


Now do you see why it's a terrible Idea ?

First of all, who on earth would camp low sec with a titan after the gun nerf?

Secondly, no that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. This bubble would only cyno jam the grid, not the whole system. THAT would be overpowered.



I thought about this, but the problem is that you could use this defensively as well. Allow me to give an example.

I want to use a system next to high sec to bring in my jump freighter, but it doesnt have a station and jumping to a POS is dangerous, so i target my own cyno with one of these ships and now my JF appears somewhere off grid or far away from the cyno so you cant just warp to it, and it hits the gate to high sec with 0 risk.

That and randomness in a PvP environment, or any competitive environment is a bat thing that reduces skill and should be eliminated at every opportunity. This is why competitive TF2 servers turn off random crits, and why units in starcraft and starcraft 2 do a static amount of damage not a range of damage.

The simple fix has already been discussed: Jump drives take more time to spool up...like a minute or more. Gives you plenty of time to pop that cyno.

Bridge portals otoh are just fine