EVE General Discussion

They can't let PvP get in the way of PvP?

And yet it is one player affecting another player.

Since when did PVE start affecting (no, not effecting, affecting) other players directly?

Farming the miners or something ? Then get your bounty from "teh goonz".

Farming the rats or something? Then get your bounty from CONCORD.

One idea thrown about in another thread was to have 'regional' empire wars available (caldari, amarr etc), with cost based on your member size + the standings of the other entity to the empire region. You pay a fee not to CONCORD but to the empire concerned.

This could cost less than the universe-wide CONCORD option, and would allow some interesting tactics to evolve - such as the entity wardecced being able to avoid war in highsec if they keep clear of certain travel routes/areas.

It would also be the perfect option if you want to do something tactical such as destroy a certain highsec POS, or declare war not against a 0.0 entity but someone actually based in a specific part of empire etc.

Unless you're an 8000 man alliance and want to grief a small empire corp. But woe betide if they want to do the same thing in return...

Because CCP wants you to pay more for shooting more targets. More targets = More money. Fewer targets = Less money. Your basically crying because you want to shoot at 8000 people, but don't want to fork over an amount of cash equivalent to that, nor do you want to leave the safety of high sec (ahahahahahahahaha safety!).

So you have two choices available. Continue to whine about how life, the universe, and everything are 42 kinds of unfair. Or brush the sand out of your mangina and go to null sec where no one gives a damn about what you do, or why. One of these choices involves you being hydrated, the other requires you have balls. Space Balls.

Would be cool if say your corp/alliance has really good standings with a specific faction, you can get the war dec at a discount, but it is only valid in the space that faction controls. But I guess that is pretty much what treaties are for. Point is there should be a way to isolate specific parts of space for the war dec. Maybe you don't care about how some group operates on the other side of high/low sec. You want to inflict pain closer to home. You don't like them doing that trade route where you spin ships, it is distracting and you lost count. Meanwhile that corp now has to take a longer way around high sec to avoid the 'danger zone' where they can be shot legally.

Just give us a lot more options CCP. This entire war dec really feels like another light switch mechanic. Either it is 100% legal anywhere in the game, or it is 100% illegal to shoot that corp/alliance. Give us different ways to do the war decs. Maybe if i kill enough of a corps ships in a controlled Gallente low sec area, I get to war dec that same corp at a 50% discount and it is only valid in Gallente controlled space. Or maybe if I kill enough directors of that corp it opens some more options.

Maybe those are specifically bad mechanics for a more dynamic war dec system, but I hope you all get the point I'm making. Perhaps some of you have some interesting goals or factors that could happen to allow certain things in a war dec to take place.

I'm tired, heading to bed.

If that is the stated reason, it's fatally flawed.

1) Large 0.0 entities don't hang out much in highsec - so you're not paying for more targets. You'll get more targets griefing a mid-sized empire mining corp for a lot less money if all you care about are number of targets. But that brings us nicely onto...

2) War declarations are used for a wide range of reasons - to destroy highsec POS, to avoid security hits in lowsec, for revenge, etc. Assuming the same reason for everyone ('lulz they just want moar targets') is lazy and, in many cases, simply wrong.

3) The same war should not be vastly cheaper for a larger entity to initiate. That is quite obviously ludicrous.

Completely unlike literally every hisec "PVP" corp, who relies heavily on neutral repping buddies, of course.