Missions & Complexes

I'm very interested in this endeavor. What timezone/time do you guys usually do these Incursions?

Logi 5 in 28 days x.x

one day i can play real man spaceships too....

Free Bump

there are several places that prefered fits can be found. For us just subscribe to our mailing list 'ISN fitting'. for a more general idea of what to fit try. http://incursions.nexsoft.de/?mode=logistic and always remember that any fit you post will have it's fans and detractors.

On a side note The new Vanguards require a codebreaker and a MWD on one logistics ship aloowing for both ore drop and hacking in different sites, so alternatlivelly having the ability to fit iether tracking links or the aformentioned hacking and mwd will make you invaluable to most fleets.

Logistics are the keystone pilots in a fleet so it might take a while to get trusted persistence is often the best ammunition.

Any chance an up and coming logi pilot with Logi 5 and a low isk income stream (currently) could get in with this fitting? While they save up for the fits on the ISN mailing lists?

[Basilisk, Logi T2's]

2x Large 'Regard' Power Projector
4x Large Shield Transporter II

Large Shield Extender II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
10MN Afterburner II
EM Ward Field II

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

2x Medium Ancillary Current Router I

5x Light Shield Maintenance Bot I

Open to suggestions, TS/Vent/Mumble not a problem.

I like trains .

We look forward to you joining in our fleets!

I feel like a schoolboy that is getting punished for knowing the schoolyard bully. He has taken someone else’s lunch money and now the whole class has to go without recess till he admits what he has done, but the big lug is to thickheaded to realize he is at fault.

Through rumor control I have been told that TVP has decided to end all incursions to force ISN to run their incursion only and to pressure ISN management into accepting an ‘Incursion Community Agreement’. Basically an agreement that requires ISN to not do MOM sites without leaving the ability to have the loot stolen by someone’s alt or the site stolen by an overwhelming TVP fleet in a contest. either way ‘they’, whoever ‘they’ are, want to know what, when, and where. More importantly they want to make a deal no one will take, as ‘they’ are fine with the Status Quo.

The contempt TVP has of any Incursion runner not inside their scope of control is narcissistic and borderline egomaniacal. So they lash out blindly and hit everything but their target. If the latest rumor is anywhere in the scope of reality (funny word in a fantasy world) then the ISK per hour a TVP player will make vs. the ISK per hour an ISN member will make is pathetic. ISN fleet can grind the contestation control down to 0 in just under 5 hours with absolutely no help, making each fleet member 600 to 700million ISK. Best estimate for a HQ fleet in this amount of time is 250 million under ideal conditions. Conversely I have been messaged by a TVP-FC not long ago asking if ISN was coming to an incursion to grind it down as they had tried for 12 hours and been unable to make gains on an 18% constellation control.

The basis for the latest drama incurred on our Incursion life is supposedly to make ISN bow to the will of the incursion community, Problem I have with this idea, is that I always thought ‘We’ are the Incursion community, and that the 50 to 100 members I speak to every day would let me know if they thought ISN was doing something to interfere with their fun or ISK making. Intellectually I assume that the people I am talking to, and about, are reasonable, intelligent, individuals. Reality proves me wrong almost every time and a seemingly vast majority of people would rather shoot their computer with a Megapulse laser than listen to reason.

But here goes a little reason, egomaniacs should tune out now so they don’t waste any their time coming up with witty retorts that have no relevance. Incursion are primarily a way to make ISK to fund other ventures in EVE, some PLEX’ing accounts others buying ‘pew pew’ ships for pirate and PVP action. Incursion themselves have little or no impact on gameplay and are of no concern for the vast majority of players in eve so taking down an incursion hurts nobody except the player that didn’t get to make a profit from the rat killing. Intuitive player capitalize on the communities’ needs of ammo, modules, and ships. Other players Capitalize on trust, setting the stage for drama and dissent allows them to use a community to gain riches and power without anyone being the wiser, “We are taking this MOM site to teach ISN who’s in charge.” Isn’t the community in charge, and wouldn’t the community want to make ISK and then go do something else, not feed the ego of some guy that logs in only to scoop the loot then log back into his Nul sec Toon and ignore the community till the Empire Cyno that is Constellation control lets him know it is time to go get another payday. Believe it or not there are some players that have 4 – 6 Toons in the MOM site when it goes down. Add that up and they are making more ISK in one site than many other will make in a week of waiting for fleet invites and grinding.

This schoolyard Bully is telling us all he is in charge and he's looking out for your best interest, my only question:When has a bully ever looked out for anyone but himself.

Individual Communities needs to look at who is getting the most, and decide if supporting those goals is in line with their own goals, then act accordingly.

That was so much fun can't wait to do it again.