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Any reimbursment for useless rigs on miners ?
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Zkaor
HATRON 4
#1 - 2012-08-16 15:31:33 UTC
I did a quick seach of the forums and did not find any info as to any, if at all, reimbursment to the now usless cargo rigs on my Hulk and Mack. Any tips or am I just out of a couple hundred mil ?

Thanks
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#2 - 2012-08-16 15:35:19 UTC
They've never bothered reimbursing me when they made T2 rigs on my PVP ships useless. So no.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Anvil44
Quantshure
#3 - 2012-08-16 15:36:42 UTC
As long as they didn't stop working, they aren't useless. Just more like you don't need them anymore. Unless you want to carry more crystals.

I may not like you or your point of view but you have a right to voice it.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-08-16 15:36:44 UTC
theyre not useless you just havent found a use

No Worries
Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#5 - 2012-08-16 15:42:15 UTC
Out of interest, what would folks recommend rigging on a Hulk now?
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#6 - 2012-08-16 15:43:36 UTC
LOL, point taken. Thanks for the quick replies.
mxzf
Shovel Bros
#7 - 2012-08-16 15:43:50 UTC
Chimpy B wrote:
Out of interest, what would folks recommend rigging on a Hulk now?


Ice cycle time, Merx yield, or tank most likely.
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#8 - 2012-08-16 15:48:11 UTC
Tough choice, it would seem it all depends how you intend to use it, ie. solo vs dual box etc.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#9 - 2012-08-16 15:48:22 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
I did a quick seach of the forums and did not find any info as to any, if at all, reimbursment to the now usless cargo rigs on my Hulk and Mack. Any tips or am I just out of a couple hundred mil ?

Thanks


The cargo rigs still work, so no, you don't get money back.

And cargo-maxed Hulks are an abomination, so if you have to destroy the mods consider the ISK loss a fine for a lousy fit.
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#10 - 2012-08-16 15:51:40 UTC
The cargo rigs gave my alt time to transport two jumps away and back. Was never part of a big mining op.
Idris Helion
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-08-16 15:52:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Idris Helion
Chimpy B wrote:
Out of interest, what would folks recommend rigging on a Hulk now?


Tank, if you're in low/null sec.

In hisec, mining drone augment if you run mining drones. You may need to rig a processor overclocker to fit a third MLU II if your skills aren't high enough.

Cargo-maxing a mining barge is always a bad idea. Don't do it.

[EDIT] Hulks only have 2 lows, so you can't fit a third MLU II in the lows. Duh. Still, a Hulk with 2 MLU II"s in the lows will outmine a Mack with 3, so there's that.
Zkaor
HATRON 4
#12 - 2012-08-16 15:57:16 UTC
Unless they come up with an ore bay expander it will never happen (not that I would ever use them). At the time, for me, it (cargo rigs) was my best option.

Thanks for all the replies !
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#13 - 2012-08-16 16:34:35 UTC
If you're not fitting tank related rigs, you are still in a gankable Hulk.
Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-08-17 02:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Shereza
RavenPaine wrote:
If you're not fitting tank related rigs, you are still in a gankable Hulk.


Even if you are fitting tanking-related rigs any hulk is still subject to ganking. It might make it less profitable and dissuade some of the less resilient gankers (or the ones with fewer friends/associate), but it by no means means you aren't gankable if you fit them. The top "omni" EHP on a hulk is only around, roughly, 44k, and that requires someone with a T2 harmonizing link and the siege warfare implant along with T2 rigs on the hulk. It could get a little higher, but I don't see someone using a vulture or tengu over an orca for shield bonuses in a mining op. A more realistic EHP value is 38.5k which is still better than a lot of the "25k EHP" builds pre-1.2, but it's still gankable.
Sigras
Conglomo
#15 - 2012-08-17 07:50:11 UTC
put it up on contract for all the people whining about not having enough crystal space in their hulks.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-08-17 12:17:25 UTC
There have been many changes over the years negating some rigs vs others. Why is it miners are the first I've heard whine about wanting some sort of reimbursement?
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-08-17 17:11:23 UTC
So you guys get a buff to mining barges and now you want reimbursement too?

Play the game for one second without CCP holding your hand.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-08-17 17:20:37 UTC
You can move Ore in space from your Ore Hold to your Cargo Hold.

I get something like 400-500m3 of extra Ore per haul that way.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#19 - 2012-08-17 17:45:54 UTC
This new ore hold thing has led to me getting frustrated and throwing shield rigs on.

After experimenting with mining drone rigs, I still went with shield rigs.
Silas Shaw
Coffee Hub
#20 - 2012-08-19 03:39:01 UTC
Zkaor wrote:
I did a quick seach of the forums and did not find any info as to any, if at all, reimbursment to the now usless cargo rigs on my Hulk and Mack. Any tips or am I just out of a couple hundred mil ?

Thanks


dude, sell it on contract. just set the tag to "now with 38% more space!" (or whatever the total net change is). it's factually accurate, you just aren't calling out that the bonus is just on the cargo bay, not on the total.

this IS eve, after all.
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