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The wormhole nomad: living in w-space without a POS
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#61 - 2012-06-29 16:24:50 UTC
Kelhund wrote:
so if I'm understanding this right, you're essentially doing stealth ops. All ships remain cloaked unless otherwise being used, and at that point you're keeping them uncloaked only as long as it takes to do your ops and GTFO...

How often do you switch systems? whenver the one you're in gets too hot?


I haven't done this in quite some time, but when I did I generally looked for unoccupied systems that had statics that I liked. I'd live in them for as long as I felt they were safe and the anoms/statics were producing. If I found a system I liked better or my current one suddenly showed a spike in ship kills, I'd leave.

I'm presently training up a pair of alts to do the low-cost variation on this. I'm thinking for the sake of training time I'm just going to put a drake and a noctis in, along with a low-skill scanner that I already have (it doesn't take much to scan down wormholes)

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Rashpla Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#62 - 2012-06-29 16:29:54 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

Flying a cane will keep you from being able to combat probe, but you'll still be able to probe and get kills.

Don't fit a T1 cloak on a PVP ship if you can avoid it. It will cut your scan res in half and keep you from being able to catch the PVE ships that will account for most of your kills.

If I were going to do PVP off a single account, I'd take a month to train a decent scanning alt in a T1 frigate in the same corp. Scout a route with your scanner, make corp bookmarks along the way, and then relog with your main and follow. It's a bit more tedious, but I think you'll get better results and more kills.


Good point on T1 cloak and combat probes, I always forget "little" details like this :)

But with normal probes I should be able to probe sites and - in case of forgetting to BM wh entrance (excitement and all) - way out, right? I don't have perfect probing skills but they should suffice even in unbonused ship, I think.

Thanks for idea of dedicated scanning alt in second slot, I didn't think about setting up corp BMs and then relog to pvp toon to follow them. Eh, a lot of things like this I have to learn and remember to use.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#63 - 2012-06-29 17:06:32 UTC
Rashpla Bastanold wrote:
Good point on T1 cloak and combat probes, I always forget "little" details like this :)

But with normal probes I should be able to probe sites and - in case of forgetting to BM wh entrance (excitement and all) - way out, right? I don't have perfect probing skills but they should suffice even in unbonused ship, I think.


Yeah, a basic probe launcher will let you scan your way out and won't significantly hurt your PVP performance.

Rashpla Bastanold wrote:
Thanks for idea of dedicated scanning alt in second slot, I didn't think about setting up corp BMs and then relog to pvp toon to follow them. Eh, a lot of things like this I have to learn and remember to use.


You'd be surprised how often people overlook useful stuff in the game :)

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Kelhund
Scope Mining Empire
Outer Planets Association
#64 - 2012-06-29 17:13:19 UTC
So what do you do for ammunition while in here? killing sleepers in a C3 will burn alot of rounds, or do you usually use Lazorz when doing PVE?
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#65 - 2012-06-29 18:01:57 UTC
Kelhund wrote:
So what do you do for ammunition while in here? killing sleepers in a C3 will burn alot of rounds, or do you usually use Lazorz when doing PVE?


I hear the Orca has a big cargo hold Blink

When I was doing this, I was flying a PVE Legion, but even if you aren't using an orca and just have a shooter and a salvager, that Noctis can carry quite a bit itself.

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Ceq Lysander
#66 - 2012-06-29 22:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Ceq Lysander
Really like this idea. Would be cool to do the low cost thing, drake/noctis combo with a cov-ops and a bomber for pvp fun in the hanger bay.

Good read.

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Joneleth Rein
#67 - 2012-06-30 02:38:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Joneleth Rein
Thumbs up for the good read and info! Big smile

I am a new player relatively but I have to say going nomad in wormholes is what made me really enjoy the game. Picked up my gear and one ship and disappeared for a month inside wormholes. With 1 account and 1 ship it's terminally stupid and astronomically risky but damn worth the fun and experience. To this day i think it's blind luck I didn't make someone VERY happy in his/their killboard.

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Ristlin Wakefield
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-07-17 19:13:28 UTC
This thread was one of the first I read when I started playing EVE : )

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#69 - 2012-07-17 20:05:54 UTC
Ristlin Wakefield wrote:
This thread was one of the first I read when I started playing EVE : )

I hope it helped get you interested in w-space. In my opinion, it's the most interesting part of Eve most of the time.

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stintic
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#70 - 2012-08-07 19:50:43 UTC
This is a great idea! Thanks for taking the time to write it up.

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Craggus
Doomheim
#71 - 2012-08-09 02:08:54 UTC
When I get some downtime, I think I may try the cheap, daytripping method. I think this is the 3rd or 4th time reading this and everytime I read it, I tell myself I AM going to. This time, I am!

Thanks for the read.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#72 - 2012-08-09 14:03:33 UTC
Craggus wrote:
When I get some downtime, I think I may try the cheap, daytripping method. I think this is the 3rd or 4th time reading this and everytime I read it, I tell myself I AM going to. This time, I am!

Thanks for the read.

Daytripping from highsec is definitely a good way to start if you're new to wormholes and don't have an experienced corp to guide you. If you "live" in a certain system and explore within a few jumps of there, it's quite possible to shoot sleepers and salvage with the same character, simply by making two trips in and out of the wormhole. You won't find good wormholes as frequently, but it's a start and will help you learn as you go. Also, NEVER go solo into a wormhole without a probe launcher. I've deliberately collapsed holes on people before :)

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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#73 - 2012-08-17 07:05:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Barrogh Habalu
Joneleth Rein wrote:
Thumbs up for the good read and info! Big smile

I am a new player relatively but I have to say going nomad in wormholes is what made me really enjoy the game. Picked up my gear and one ship and disappeared for a month inside wormholes. With 1 account and 1 ship it's terminally stupid and astronomically risky but damn worth the fun and experience. To this day i think it's blind luck I didn't make someone VERY happy in his/their killboard.

Dude, you were soloing in a single ship for a month and returned intact? Wow, that's definitely something worth writing a mini-novel. I think people here (and me ofc) will enjoy reading a bit about that journey Smile

OT: Nice read. Always fun to read up about something like that. It would be nice ofc to have mates to do the trip with you (though you will be limited to ocasion when you can get together online), but whatever.
It would be nice to try something with less multiboxing (for better _solo_ experience), but that's probably tricky (anyways, the reason I've noticed the post I've quoted above). On this matter, I have a question though. I've seen someone suggested to use T3 droneboat setup for this job (probably explo Legion with ELA subsystem due to Legion's vast drone bay), but it doesn't sound right. As far as I know, drones will die fast (and dronebay ) to sleepers, and then you can't replace them in bay (and even if you could, replacements will eat out your cargohold alive). Or is there a way to pull this off (like maybe staying in "melee" range and scoop drones every time you aren't redboxed by everything... sounds like terrible idea).

Also, somewhere on these forums I've seen report about people who were living in wormholes off two carriers, with no POS or something. I'm not sure if they were nomads in high-class WH space (doesn't look like it's realistic to do that for a long time) or just squeezed them into system and decided to dismantle their POS later or something.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#74 - 2012-08-17 13:59:14 UTC
Barrogh Habalu wrote:
Also, somewhere on these forums I've seen report about people who were living in wormholes off two carriers, with no POS or something. I'm not sure if they were nomads in high-class WH space (doesn't look like it's realistic to do that for a long time) or just squeezed them into system and decided to dismantle their POS later or something.


A group of us actually talked about going nomad in C5s with two carriers, a dread, and an orca. It never happened, but you could support 4-6 people quite comfortably with the SMA of two carriers and an orca. The problem is of course you have to have 10 people who play together in the same time zone on the same days.

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