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I have no idea what you did with the NPE but...

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Beckie DeLey
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-08-16 19:49:05 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Asm Khurelem wrote:
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P

I'm fairly new around here - what's a spai?


That's exactly what a spai would say.

My siren's name is Brick and she is the prettiest.
Kult Altol
The Safe Space
#22 - 2012-08-16 19:49:39 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
This makes me really happy to hear. It is always nice to hear from you guys that our changes made a difference. :D


I think every change CCP does has a tremendous ripple effect. Down to the color of a mining laser I'm sure.

[u]Can't wait untill when Eve online is Freemium.[/u] WiS only 10$, SP booster for one month 15$, DPS Boost 2$, EHP Boost 2$ Real money trading hub! Cosmeitic ship skins 15$ --> If you don't [u]pay **[/u]for a product, you ARE the [u]**product[/u].

Phyridean
Derp Shipping Co.
#23 - 2012-08-16 20:25:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Asm Khurelem wrote:
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P

I'm fairly new around here - what's a spai?


Everybody


You, sir, win Eve and the internets. All of them.
Dennis Gregs
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-08-16 20:29:01 UTC
CCP Prism X wrote:
Made the tutorial a whole lot more sensible with UI pointers and such rather then a whole lot of text.

I take no credit. But I'll forward a link to this thread to people who should.
Remember: Devs need likes to survive crunch!


To be honest, I wish the rest of the interface was as polished as the new tutorial now :)
Jake Rivers
New Planetary Order
#25 - 2012-08-16 21:17:56 UTC
The new tutorials are good, played with a few new toons and went through the starter process.

Senex Legio
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-08-16 21:36:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jett0
Agreed that new NPE is probably one of the best things to happen to EVE for a while.

Next: New-NPE-ize the career agents? Big smile

*Edited with Strikethroughs of Truth

Occasionally plays sober
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#27 - 2012-08-16 21:57:05 UTC
Always glad to hear about a new infusion of fresh meat blood.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#28 - 2012-08-16 22:39:55 UTC
Medarr wrote:
CCP FoxFour wrote:
This makes me really happy to hear. It is always nice to hear from you guys that our changes made a difference. :D



Yeah now we have educated spais... Gee thanks!.....
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Just kidding the new tutorials are awesome.


Hey at least maybe they can do something while in your corp before taking all your stuff. :P

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

Third-party developer? Check out the official developers site for dev blogs, resources, and more.
CCP Sisyphus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#29 - 2012-08-16 23:01:23 UTC
Jett0 wrote:
Agreed that new NPE is probably one of the best things to happen to EVE for a while.

Next: New-NPE-ize the career agents? Big smile


Why thank you :) I'm sure everyone involved loves to hear that :)

CCP Sisyphus | Team TriLambda | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-08-16 23:17:12 UTC
CCP Sisyphus wrote:
Jett0 wrote:
Agreed that new NPE is probably one of the best things to happen to EVE for a while.

Next: New-NPE-ize the career agents? Big smile


Why thank you :) I'm sure everyone involved loves to hear that :)


The NPE's been near the top of my wishlist for a long time. And you guys even added stuff I never imagined. A beer for whoever came up with the anchor-tip "This is an enemy ship (not as good as yours)."

If your team gets the time, I'm sure a few of us would be interested in a post/devblog a few months from now with updated retention stats.

If it's no trouble, maybe you could share some of those UI tricks with Punkturis and friends? Big smile Team Trailer UI anyone?

Occasionally plays sober
Smohq Anmirorz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-08-17 00:19:37 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Asm Khurelem wrote:
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P

I'm fairly new around here - what's a spai?


Pronounce it differently.
Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#32 - 2012-08-17 00:35:44 UTC
NOOO, THEY'RE DUMBING EVE DOWN!!

Cool

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.
Mar Drakar
LDK
#33 - 2012-08-17 07:26:46 UTC
Seriously now it's harder to determine if a new guy is genuine noob or total spy,
they know ~THINGS~ that were mysteries before...
CCP Arrow
C C P
C C P Alliance
#34 - 2012-08-17 09:33:11 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
NOOO, THEY'RE DUMBING EVE DOWN!!


That is one cool Avatar portrait Big smile

CCP Arrow   |   Director of User Experience   |   EVE Online   |   @CCP_Arrow
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#35 - 2012-08-17 09:51:42 UTC
Thought it was the new personalized letters soundwave is sending.

Dear new subscriber,

We updated our tutorial to make your learning curve a bit lower. As you see Eve is not that scary.
If you have any questions whatsoever feel free to call me , day or night on my cellphone on the toll free number 555-123456.

Sincerely yours,

CCP soundwave


Poor guy hasn't slept for weeks but it's paying off :). Also explains why we had 2 bug fixes already this week :P.

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#36 - 2012-08-17 09:59:57 UTC
Radius Prime wrote:
Thought it was the new personalized letters soundwave is sending.

Dear new subscriber,

We updated our tutorial to make your learning curve a bit lower. As you see Eve is not that scary.
If you have any questions whatsoever feel free to call me , day or night on my cellphone on the toll free number 555-123456.

Sincerely yours,

CCP soundwave


Poor guy hasn't slept for weeks but it's paying off :). Also explains why we had 2 bug fixes already this week :P.


Hey! That's not a valid Icelandic cell phone number! Any number starting with a five is a landline!
HEY EVERYBODY! THIS GUY IS BEING A PHONY!

CCP Prism X

Programmer on Team Gridlock & Expert Ranter
Adoro
Below the Asteroids Ltd.
#37 - 2012-08-17 10:08:39 UTC
Grumpymunky wrote:
NOOO, THEY'RE DUMBING EVE DOWN!!

Cool


you look like a monkey, so your corp name fits i suppose
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#38 - 2012-08-17 10:19:34 UTC
I dunno guy's, are the CCP dev's suddenly going soft on us?Shocked

I mean that 'perpetual motion unit tutorial' back in the days was pretty wicked. I'm sure there was a dev walking around the CCP office with a big evil grin on his face thinking of all the nubs who banged their head (like me) at that one. X

P
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-08-17 10:31:03 UTC
Confirming one of my friends sci-fi fan is on test mode and will probably subscribe on the long run, he still doesn't understand that much why this one-year commitment to be able to fly properly other thing than frigs but hey!! -I'm giving this dude tips and isk and he will probably be your next taclke frig/Dictor nightmare !!

brb
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#40 - 2012-08-17 10:34:00 UTC
I did the tutorials on an alt to have a looksee and it's quite the improvement. There's still some issues (many times the tutorial tells you to rightclick from overview instead of using the context window, or even mentioning it as an option) and small problems but overall it's really well done.

I DO miss Aura's voice though, I understand it takes too much effort/cash to redo it every time you change something but "text only" really does make it feel old hat and I'm fairly sure newer players who aren't yet 'converted' into the "take your time, be patient and pay attention" will have issues keeping their attention span up.
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