Warfare & Tactics

Most people that seem to be telling OP to HTFU based upon the fact that he was in a plex. However, weather he was in a plex or not is irrelevant. Current mechanics allow faction warfare awox-ers to operate without penalty. This is unlike hisec suicide ganking, where there are plenty of penalties and restrictions. In highsec ganking, the aggressor loses his ship, his insurance, takes a sec status hit, and gives kill-rights to the victim. Sec status loss restricts movements in hisec as well as the opportunities to further gank. Sec status must be repaired. In current FW mechanics, a militia awoxer does not lose the ability to freely move around in lowsec. A militia awoxer in a player corporation cannot be blacklisted or removed from faction warfare. A militia awoxer cannot be engaged without standings loss.

The OP's suggestion of banning people from fw is unreasonable. FW awoxing is intended gameplay, however it should not be possible to do it indefinitely without penalty. This is just a side effect of using corporation standings in determining FW eligibility. A simple solution would be to set a hard cap on standings below which a player would be ejected from the militia. Basically you would need to require a FW pilot to have a -5.0 or better derived standing toward the faction whose militia he is in. This is a pretty low bar, and you could awox for awhile before hitting it, and it still would allow pilots with negative standing to join FW through a player corporation. The problem of implementing this mechanic is that you would have a standings check remove a player from a player corporation, or kick an entire corporation from FW based off a single player's standings (and not the averaged standings, as is current). However, if CCP was motivated enough to tackle this problem, you would allow for FWers to awox with moderate penalty for awhile, but without allowing dedicated awoxers to abuse the system indefinitely with impunity.

tl;dr what BolsterBomb, Xuixien, or NoNah said, although I do take issue with NoNah's comments here:



dumb and irrelevant.



Purple stars are a CCP construct. It is reasonable to assume you won't be shot by one, although unreasonable to assume you cannot be shot by one. It also intended for there to be consequences for friendly fire. You've listed examples where the mechanics are working as intended: player corps can boot awoxers, npc corps can boot them based on standings, but from the discussion here I would say its clear there is no way to take the purple star from an awoxer, and the awoxer suffers no consequences of note at all.

And according to OP you still gain to much.

All in all Low Sec gets the poo stick out of everywhere else. Purple killing is just one of the problems:

In any other setting you can have an easy way of dealing with this. In High Sec you kick him from corp, if he tries to kill you, he either has to have a WD in place or suicide ganks you. Either way there is an easy way/ harsh penalty of knowing he is not firendly.

In nullsec you can boot him from corp and kill repetitively without any standing loss.

In low sec, if you see him and defend yourself prior to him engaging you and kill him YOU losse standings which effects YOUR play style. If you wait till he agresses then you will most likely die because is he friendly, is he hostile, is he...pop!

A standing hit is not enough in low sec.

I do not know what the solution is but the current mechanics are not enough. You essentially could go pie and get friendly kills all day long without ever being booted from militia.

On a side note, one of my biggest pet peves is neutrals that come into plexes and move in a hostile manner which makes you have to agress them first. Really screws up your sec status....solution CCP MAKE MORE RATS IN LOW SEC

Happened 5 times last night...........

killing your own militia is allowed, you get standing penalties from it and you have to deal with those on some way or you will get booted from militia.

Working as intended.

Personally i never trust anyone not even my own corp members, i do not trust even myself on certain things.

If you see pirate , blue or not, be aware that anything can happen.

Also all militias are full of enemy militia alts who can tackle you if needed, taking standing hit is not a big deal, just make new buddy and CCP is happy. (might be exploit , not sure about it.)