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I have no idea what you did with the NPE but...

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Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#1 - 2012-08-16 15:24:29 UTC
... it must be working!

I have been a recruiter for EVE for almost two years, and even talked to Soundwave at PAX about recruiting, and player retention. Either way, I have brought several players into the game since the last patch. After a few hours or a day I usually come back and clear up the wide eyed confusion my new recruit has.

I have had none.

Each person that I asked has responded with "nah, this makes sense" or "nope, it's pretty straight forward". I talked to a friend of mine who also recruited someone, and they confirmed that the new guy knew things that took us years to learn.

Again I have no idea what you guys did to make this happen, but I retract any negative thought I have had towards your NPE designers. Keep up the good work.

PS: I am not saying that some things could still not be built better. Strive to improve and all that Twisted
CCP Prism X
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2012-08-16 15:31:17 UTC
Made the tutorial a whole lot more sensible with UI pointers and such rather then a whole lot of text.

I take no credit. But I'll forward a link to this thread to people who should.
Remember: Devs need likes to survive crunch!
Phyridean
Derp Shipping Co.
#3 - 2012-08-16 15:34:33 UTC
Confirming I'm also impressed with new noobs' knowledge.
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp RELOADED
CODE.
#4 - 2012-08-16 15:41:24 UTC
Don't forget the new rookie ships! Smile
Asm Khurelem
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-08-16 15:42:36 UTC
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P
CCP Sisyphus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2012-08-16 15:44:29 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sisyphus
Cool
Calling appropriate devs!

CCP Sisyphus | Team TriLambda | Team Klang | @CCP_Sisyphus

CCP Masterplan
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2012-08-16 16:06:41 UTC
In case anyone missed it, CCP Greyscale wrote a dev blog about the development process of the new tutorial.
We're glad that you're finding it useful, and that it is helping your new friends get to grips with EVE. Thanks for the nice feedback :)

"This one time, on patch day..."

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Gavrosh Manila
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-08-16 16:11:17 UTC
Nah, it's all perception tweaks! They wrapped EVE in a nice tutorial, threw some glitter, rolled it in it and said: there noobz, go get it" Everyone will be running around, shooting civilian lasers, grinding rocks with civilian miners, holding hands and having techno parties with glowing sticks and short underwear.

Then reality sneaks in behind and kicks them in the butt. Hard. Like loosing all money on that stupid ship you bought. :D

And all will return to normal, cold space with piranhas and honey badgers all kicking you under rib and pointing towards the fuqs they don't give.

Really good job on UI tho! I had nightmares about "More Info" that was inconsistent from menu to menu and I was chasing it, and it was slamming me with wall of text and laughing maniacally.

Unless noobz got smarter but I doubt it
Relicc
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#9 - 2012-08-16 16:39:15 UTC
Gav for CSM!
CCP Affinity
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2012-08-16 16:48:40 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Affinity
This makes me really happy :) so glad it's better for our new players!

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CCP Arrow
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2012-08-16 16:49:21 UTC
Great to hear you guys liked it. Working on it was a lot of fun Big smile

CCP Arrow   |   Director of User Experience   |   EVE Online   |   @CCP_Arrow

Boxless
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-08-16 17:02:55 UTC
My main, in Dreddit HR. Can attest to a sudden influx of applicants.

Not sure if its due to other factors however.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2012-08-16 17:09:07 UTC
So the NPE is no longer "here's a rubiks cube, go screw yourself" ?
'bout time
well done to the NPE devs Lol

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CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2012-08-16 17:40:13 UTC
This makes me really happy to hear. It is always nice to hear from you guys that our changes made a difference. :D

@CCP_FoxFour // Technical Designer // Team Tech Co

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Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#15 - 2012-08-16 18:11:03 UTC
Nice, glad to hear things are improving for the newbies~
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#16 - 2012-08-16 19:36:23 UTC
Nice, only took you 9 years to get it right. Lol
El Cid Campeador
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-16 19:38:38 UTC
Ashterothi wrote:
... it must be working!

I have been a recruiter for EVE for almost two years, and even talked to Soundwave at PAX about recruiting, and player retention. Either way, I have brought several players into the game since the last patch. After a few hours or a day I usually come back and clear up the wide eyed confusion my new recruit has.

I have had none.

Each person that I asked has responded with "nah, this makes sense" or "nope, it's pretty straight forward". I talked to a friend of mine who also recruited someone, and they confirmed that the new guy knew things that took us years to learn.

Again I have no idea what you guys did to make this happen, but I retract any negative thought I have had towards your NPE designers. Keep up the good work.

PS: I am not saying that some things could still not be built better. Strive to improve and all that Twisted



As a fairly new newbie, I can confirm this. I learned alot more this time around than I did 5 years ago (Trial). 5 years ago It took my a few hours to figure out how to shoot. Now I know how to shoot thanks to the tutorials.
Oraac Ensor
#18 - 2012-08-16 19:38:54 UTC
Asm Khurelem wrote:
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P

I'm fairly new around here - what's a spai?
Medarr
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-08-16 19:40:58 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
This makes me really happy to hear. It is always nice to hear from you guys that our changes made a difference. :D



Yeah now we have educated spais... Gee thanks!.....
....
...
..

Just kidding the new tutorials are awesome.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#20 - 2012-08-16 19:47:11 UTC
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Asm Khurelem wrote:
Actually, these noobs are just spais. P

I'm fairly new around here - what's a spai?


Everybody

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

New Player FAQ

Feyd's Survival Pack

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