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Topic: Suggested new pvp mechanic - Energy a bit different than capacitor

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Topic: Suggested new pvp mechanic - Energy a bit different than capacitor

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Topic: Suggested new pvp mechanic - Energy a bit different than capacitor

Forum: Features and Ideas forum

id say soemthing witty, but alas, theres nothing else really to say to yet another person who started eve and seems to think he/ she/it is the authority on how to fix EVE.

like it or leave it, this is EVE

ohh, and ya, tl;dr

Well, not exactly. James 315 just did a better job staying entertaining.

look at how hard he tries.

Wow, I'm usually pretty good with long reads but ....damn. I made it to the part where you start to suggest mechanics changes as a new player. Learn the ones that exist first (i.e. a cap ship flown by a guy who never played before is as good as dead).


You'll never be rewarded sp for grinding rats and that's a very very very good thing.

It'd be readable if it were formatted correctly rather then the huge superheated gravity crush.
Try Start->Computer->Format->OK

Right this is actually a problem I ran into.

The slop mess could be translated to a informative 1 page worthwhile read; but it will require some extensive editing.
Litterally I just wrote it as I thought it and a train of thought without editing is not the most efficient or informative way of relating information. I will edit down the details a bit - there were several matters of utmost importance but the ordering is sub par.

I will edit it down to a bite size as time warrants so that it could be of some use I wouldn't expect anyone to read 5 pages as is. I would have ignored it personally - However, I do believe there is some information of importance to be seen here. I just have yet to dedicate the time to edit it correctly so that it is not a novel - a novel which does not read particularly well to begin with.



Yes although it may seem rather hefty the mechanic I mentioned can either be an altered capacitor or new energy format which in actuality would not be overly hard to implement. The code relating to how this mechanic works is already written in a sense. An algorithm for energy rates and effective resistance would need to be written (those lines are the actual work) But the relationship need not be all too technical to get the desired result and can even be simpler than how shields and capacitor values currently work. (Like with shields, how they recharge at different rates in regards to current shield strength or breaking of a shield meaning you're recharging shields at less than half the rate as within the sweetspot) That's a more technical algorithm comparatively - I would think.

lll Shield recharge here is the actual values recharges at say 19% 21% or 51% which are different.

Took me two monitors to write a reply to this; however, it's all very valid. I hope someone at CCP appreciates this type of input.



That's why most skills basic skills take 6 or 7 days to max out. In a month or two you can be very good at a few specialized roles. Most of what you have to say about Eve's skill system is exactly that: Both good and bad.

Personally, I'm glad it rewards you for staying with the game, as opposed to resetting everyone to equal footing every time an expansion comes out, like WoW and several other games do.


Just wait until you really get into it, this will change. The reward DOES go up with time invested. Money is incredibly important in Eve, moreso than any other MMO I've played. Those few extra hours mining or missioning to get a specific module or upgrade will save your ship one day.



It does. Moreso than you understand yet. Allow me to direct you to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFahR4wXTg&t=7m47s
Skip to 7 minutes, 47 seconds. There's an extensive tutorial on cross-tanking.

Honestly watch that part, and re-evaluate what you've written in your energy section. The rest of the video talks quite a bit about combat tactics; the whole thing is worth watching if you get the chance.

While the average player may not sweat the details, those who do become nearly invincible.

It sounds like you really want /mana/ which isn't something you need. The idea of having 400 different attack options on one ship doesn't really fit into Eve's gameplay, as part of the strategy is determining what you bring with you. Now, there actually are capacitor bombs (launched exclusively by stealth bombers) and vampires and various other items which you've described in your post, though you may not be aware of them. It just requires specialization.

I think your biggest misunderstanding is assuming that energy regeneration should be linear... because it isn't.

The higher your capacitor is, or the lower it is below 33%, the slower it regenerates. The trick is to keep it in the middle. If you go too low or too high, you lose efficiency.



This counteracts your earlier point. That's why gameplay is rewarding, wealth. In some situations, wealth can make up for a lack of SP, by allowing you to purchase implants or faction modules that make up for a lack of SP. A high-sp player with no wealth, or a wealthy player with little SP, will both be able to take on players with neither, whereas will lose to players with both. The idea is that EVE has more than one set of means to the same ends.