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[STRIX] Successful Takeover and Change of Ownership

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2012-08-15 20:29:57 UTC
Bastian Valoron wrote:
When the Caldari used humans as shields, I didn't speak up because I was not on the Caldari Prime.
When the Caldari gave transcranial microcontrollers to slavers, I didn't speak up because I am not a slave.
When the Caldari abolished local businesses, I didn't speak up because that wasn't in my neighborhood.
When the Caldari killed civilians, I didn't speak up because I am not a police.
When the Caldari tried to manipulate the elections, I didn't speak up because I don't vote.
When the Caldari misused the trust of tribals, I didn't speak up because I am not a tribal.
When the Caldari brainwashed their own people, I didn't speak up because they deserve it.
When the Caldari sold poisonous snacks, I didn't speak up because I don't eat snacks.
When the Caldari finally came to murder me, there was no one left to speak up for me.


... Is this supposed to be absurd?
Celeste Fauconnier
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-08-15 21:10:44 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Bastian Valoron wrote:
When the Caldari used humans as shields, I didn't speak up because I was not on the Caldari Prime.
When the Caldari gave transcranial microcontrollers to slavers, I didn't speak up because I am not a slave.
When the Caldari abolished local businesses, I didn't speak up because that wasn't in my neighborhood.
When the Caldari killed civilians, I didn't speak up because I am not a police.
When the Caldari tried to manipulate the elections, I didn't speak up because I don't vote.
When the Caldari misused the trust of tribals, I didn't speak up because I am not a tribal.
When the Caldari brainwashed their own people, I didn't speak up because they deserve it.
When the Caldari sold poisonous snacks, I didn't speak up because I don't eat snacks.
When the Caldari finally came to murder me, there was no one left to speak up for me.


... Is this supposed to be absurd?


Alas, current polling data suggests no. It's even trending as 'intrepid' and 'audacious' in some University of Caille polls, but as we know, UoC surveys are in the main designed by nitwits who'd start holding their collective breaths if they learned their local oxygen wasn't sourced via 'socially conscious' providers.

Ah. That gives me an idea. Thank you.
Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#23 - 2012-08-15 22:39:38 UTC
Of course the Caldari don't speak up. Their job is to shut up and get **** done. Those who do speak up are called dissenters rather than activists, right?

The difference between so-called "oppression" here in the Federation and past the Border Zone in the State, is that the former don't get caught.
Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-08-16 00:32:04 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Of course the Caldari don't speak up. Their job is to shut up and get **** done. Those who do speak up are called dissenters rather than activists, right?


I believe I would call those that do speak up in the State either, "Director" or, "Executive". This only because it should be only those who through talent, ability, determination and hard work rise to a position of leadership and authority in their corporation or organization whose opinions matter for they lend their own merits to their thoughts.

Perhaps to put it another way: An opinion in the State is earned through work and merit. It is not a right or privilege given to all as in the Federation.

As such, both a dissenter and activist would be a person who values their opinions greatly but is either too incompetent or incapable to prove its value practically to others.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#25 - 2012-08-16 01:48:48 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
As such, both a dissenter and activist would be a person who values their opinions greatly but is either too incompetent or incapable to prove its value practically to others.


Aaaaand, attitudes like that would be why jaalan often have trouble finding work.

... though I think the more common version is, "I don't need any troublemakers here."
Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#26 - 2012-08-16 03:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Shaalira D'arc wrote:
Public Communique
August 13, YC 114
Nennamaila, 5:45 AM

The Quantum Cats Syndicate has reset standings with the Strix Defence and Intelligence Corporation, its subsidiaries, and all related holding companies.

While STRIX had previously enjoyed positive or 'blue' standings due to its work under the aegis of the Federal Defense Union, the organizational entity has come under new management. With Sukuuvestaa Corporation possessing ownership interests in STRIX, we feel this new direction is inimical with the interests of our most frequent employers.

Therefore, STRIX no longer has positive, or 'blue,' standings with QCATS. As a reminder, the Quantum Cats Syndicate is a privateer corporation operating under the NBSI engagement policy.

Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate


I had similar concerns to Bastian Valoron:

  • wondering exactly what kind business information had been disclosed during the IPO?
  • who else the underwriters had approached?
  • the size of the offering, and the nature of the projected cash flow or assets used to secure the debt?
  • whether Veikitamo Gesakaarin had equity or had been employed by [STRIX] prior to the IPO, or had bought securities issued prior to the filing of the preliminary prospectus for instance?
  • and of course what Gervais Zhang or, his factotum and CEO of Strix Armaments and Defence [STRIX] Marcel Bigeard had to say on the matter?


Then I realised the OP was right all along and that I, and Valoron, were indeed fools. This Strix Defence and Intelligence [STXDI] only superficially resembled Strix Armaments and Defence [STRIX]. That this was in reality little more than an equity carve out of a very recent corporation with no reputation, not the shell of the once illustrious, not the scalp of the now defunct STRIX. So if you'll forgive me, STXDI is less the feared Gallente wasp more an ex-Gallente hover fly.

Having realized this I can only wish that the name of STRIX is as lucky for the Caldari as it was for Gallente - they say that imitation is the most sincere complement of all.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#27 - 2012-08-16 04:18:56 UTC
By entertaining M. Valoron, those addressing his posts only serve to encourage him.

That said, congratulations on your acquisition.

However, Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate will remain under negative standings until we see fit to consider otherwise. As Chief Executive Officer, Veikitamo Gesakaarin may present herself in person to renegotiate standings.

Until that time, fly safe and good profits.

Respectfully,
Shosho Katrina Oniseki (R.D.C)
I-RED Director of Public Relations

Katrina Oniseki

Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-08-16 08:26:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
By entertaining M. Valoron, those addressing his posts only serve to encourage him.

That said, congratulations on your acquisition.

However, Strix Defence and Intelligence Syndicate will remain under negative standings until we see fit to consider otherwise. As Chief Executive Officer, Veikitamo Gesakaarin may present herself in person to renegotiate standings.

Until that time, fly safe and good profits.

Respectfully,
Shosho Katrina Oniseki (R.D.C)
I-RED Director of Public Relations


Thanks I suspect you're right, Mr Valoron is a stooge. I have little doubt that creating a false impression is his only utility. Katrina I believe your caution is entirely justified under the circumstances. A plausible rational might entail the ability to stay on both sides of the conflict hedging discounts to materiale and arms procurement. You and I Katrina belong, or have belonged, to alliances who at much the same kind of time were at war with the erstwhile STRIX, within a couple of months of being at war with each other in fact Smile. So I should imagine we regard the pedigree of this other STXDI with a jaundiced eye.

But it did have Zagamesh in it, didn't it?

Quote:
b) Conduct a restructuring of the company with the aims of reducing operational costs though:


The only productive asset of the now defunct STXDI, and top killer of the old STRIX has left the building. This might prompt a reset of Quantum Cats Syndicate standings but they are a special case. It would answer the obvious question, the one that immediately sprung to my mind, and also to serve as a valedictory courtesy. Zagamesh is, you see, both a former STRIX pilot, Quantum Cat, and now a former STXDI pilot.

So is this really what's up, or is the post just a cover giving this legal smoke and mirrors a certain verisimilitude. In the same, or a similar capacity, but less hysterically than the role in which Mr Valoron has been cast. Anyway, I think I would carefully watch this corp, for on balance I favour this latter explanation, it's the more convincing imo.
Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-08-16 11:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Having said all that is it really necessary for anyone else to take note? Probably, Zagamesh did blow up 14 guys while in STRIXDI, a good week ends work imo. But prospectively I wouldn't have thought so, but we need only watch this space to find out... yawning void/voiding yawn.

Incidentally, was the buy out more or less than the 1,599,800 ISK paid a little less than three months ago? It is after all a slightly used corporation? BUT perhaps all this legalese is simply to allow 'certain parties' perhaps Drunk 'n' Disorderly prehaps not, to have their cake and eat it too: Mr or Miss Gessenier, I'm looking at you, are you standing in as proxies for the retired Zagamesh I don't know? Although I suspect enterism in some form or other though.

Personally I who will never make do and mend, will admit to a sneaky admiration for the Caldari insistence on recycling, after all someone has to do it don't they?
Syyl'ara
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-08-17 01:40:06 UTC
In circumstances such as this, where the unfolding events could be seen as just a bit too convenient, I tend to stay on the cautionary and reserved frame of mind. In the surveillance world, it is best to remember "things are rarely what they seem." A bit of a paranoid outlook, perhaps, but one that has served me well over the years.

However, as I have no direct involvement with the organization at this time I really don't have much of a position on this one way or the other. If there is a request for analysis from the governing State entities in this matter, however, I would advise an extended probationary period with some appropriate limitations as there are some subtle incongruities that should be addressed. Keep in mind, I say that only as a distant observer and their may well be legitimate explanations for what appear at a distance to be troubling.

Syyl'ara Infrastructure Security Coordinator Ishukone Prosperity Exchange "Cooperation is the greater path than conflict"

Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#31 - 2012-08-17 01:42:34 UTC
Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

Natalcya Katla
Astropolitan Front
#32 - 2012-08-17 02:01:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Natalcya Katla
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future


Each of those strategies is as ancient as the history of conflict itself, Captain. If this is what constitutes the "war of the future", the only sensible conclusion to be drawn from that is that war never changes.
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#33 - 2012-08-17 02:08:33 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Demoralize the enemy from within by surprise, terror, sabotage, assassination. This is the war of the future

That's been SOP in the Kingdom for 300 years. I suspect it predates that.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#34 - 2012-08-17 02:16:04 UTC
Natalcya Katla wrote:
Each of those strategies is as ancient as the history of conflict itself, Captain.


Colonel.

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

Natalcya Katla
Astropolitan Front
#35 - 2012-08-17 04:24:45 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Colonel.


No.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#36 - 2012-08-17 05:10:34 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Natalcya Katla wrote:
Each of those strategies is as ancient as the history of conflict itself, Captain.


Colonel.


Technically, "Captain" is a correct term for any person who commands a single ship, military or civilian, so I must (smirkingly) agree with Ms. Katla on this occasion ... Captain.
Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#37 - 2012-08-17 05:30:21 UTC
Natalcya Katla wrote:


No.


Yes.

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

Natalcya Katla
Astropolitan Front
#38 - 2012-08-17 06:24:23 UTC
Hans Nardieu wrote:
Yes.


Not from me, no.

Your fellow brutes may address you however they please. I, on the other hand, am not bound by those formalities. Since you are a capsuleer, I allow you the same courtesy of address I show any other spaceship commander with whom I have no previous acquaintance: "Captain".

If that title is not to your taste, I can address you as "Gladiator" instead, since that is what you are. Push the issue further, and I'll instead address you as "whelp".

Let me know which you prefer, Captain.
Evet Morrel
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-08-17 06:35:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Evet Morrel
Syyl'ara wrote:
In circumstances such as this, where the unfolding events could be seen as just a bit too convenient, I tend to stay on the cautionary and reserved frame of mind. In the surveillance world, it is best to remember "things are rarely what they seem." A bit of a paranoid outlook, perhaps, but one that has served me well over the years.

However, as I have no direct involvement with the organization at this time I really don't have much of a position on this one way or the other. If there is a request for analysis from the governing State entities in this matter, however, I would advise an extended probationary period with some appropriate limitations as there are some subtle incongruities that should be addressed. Keep in mind, I say that only as a distant observer and their may well be legitimate explanations for what appear at a distance to be troubling.


Cloak and dagger conspiracy is a little more entertaining that a lamentable failure. In fact reading the 'news' would serve me so much better, but this is the only time of the year that one can really play the interplanetary correspondent with impunity. After which the universe feels so much smaller, that's the regrettable consequence.
Hans Nardieu
Federal Nationalist Party
#40 - 2012-08-17 07:46:56 UTC
Natalcya Katla wrote:


Not from me, no.

Your fellow brutes may address you however they please. I, on the other hand, am not bound by those formalities. Since you are a capsuleer, I allow you the same courtesy of address I show any other spaceship commander with whom I have no previous acquaintance: "Captain".

If that title is not to your taste, I can address you as "Gladiator" instead, since that is what you are. Push the issue further, and I'll instead address you as "whelp".

Let me know which you prefer, Captain.



Oooooooo, Gladiator. I Iike that.

And I shall call you Teapot.

Carry on, Teapot.

Col. Hans Nardieu (ret.) Chairman, National Party of the Federated Union of Gallente Prime Office of the Party Headquarters, Villore VII-6 Senate Bureau Station

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