My EVE

Proof?
Gender is from the latin root Genus, meaning "kind". It's a taxonomic classification, regardless of what any group defines themselves as. You can call yourself female or male and not be. The only thing that makes you is wrong.

Now, you can have a gender identity that doesn't match your gender. Or, you can physically change your gender.

But gender is not a matter of opinion.

Your gender role may change as you travel abroad, but your gender will not.

As I said, I trust that you know what you are doing... it takes all sorts, as they say.

I really don't see any harm in having "special" (silly wording, I know) channels like that.

and @Lilliana: Sorry, but you aren't entirerly correct there... in some cases, gender is neither defined by the birth physis, nor psychological background or social conditioning...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender

This is exactly what I was afraid of.

It would appear you have trouble tolerating other viewpoints (including the dictionary's), yet you wish to run a clearly controversial channel.
And claim that someone quoting almost directly from the dictionary is ignorant?

Again, This seems like an attention thing, or a response to someone who identified as female but actually wasn't being denied access to wgoe.

I'm not trying to persecute you or accuse you, yet you're being defensive against my quoting the commonly accepted.

So let me, for the sake of example, be defensive:
In which case, allow me to express my own opinion. I find this channel degrading to women, due to it's similar nature to WGOE. To blindly draw an analog between "sex" as you call it (what wgoe is founded upon, and is a hard classification) and a social construct (what tgoe is founded on) lessens the meaning of the hard classification. Anyone can change their social image, but very few people have the resources to change their actual "sex", or gender, as the rest of the world refers to it.

So forgive me, but I'm offended by the grouping together of WGOE and TGOE, as it makes WGOE sound cheap and invalid.

But, that's just my /opinion/.

Agreed.

Getting back on track I would say that the idea to start this channel was not my own but that of Arancia Detto. She spoke with me at length about the benefit a channel like the one I created could have and how it would be great for the two channels to be connected to each other in function. I jumped at the idea because I have a heavy background in psychology as well as gender studies. So we both felt like I was the natural choice to start something like this.

In effort to avoid having the thread locked I am going to just ignore all the trolls and flames. I would advise everybody else to do the same, for the sake of this thread.

I wasn't referring to the how he or she acted. I just think she moves like a guy, and looks like a guy that's had work done. And I was just curious as to if she was a sort of symbol for some people. Like how gay people gravitated to Cher (for whatever reason...)

Cool idea. Good luck with the channel.

Also props to ISD Dorrim for keeping the thread clean of little children :)

"whaa whaa why doesn't everyone conform to my worldview"
That is to say, contrary to popular belief, that lots of opinions are wrong.


I for one endorse more safe spaces in online communities, anyone who's offended really needs to find better things to be upset about such as transphobia.

What we really need is a channel where transphobic people can gather and express themselves without being discriminated against. It's kind of sad how their viewpoints are looked down upon these days.

Because he's basically a clagnut whose existence in EVE is mere inches from the status of Daley. Verily I do attest to his migraine inducing attempts at being worth air as he got kicked from TEST on account of being too terrible even for us. The man doth try to be visible but his greasy spots that crater his chubby jowls like the blotchy surface of mars doth so obscure him from our eyes.