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Impressive farming power by all the gunless Minmatars!
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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#121 - 2012-08-15 15:43:23 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:

.... more whinage....

I have a solution for you. GTFO of FW before you have a heart attack and your head explodes. Come back when they implement afk alt plexing fix.


1. Dude, **** you. Or, in forum-acceptable language, "gosh, don't say stuff like that, you might get a heart attack."

2. I'm not in FW. I am waiting for something like that. In the meantime, comments as terrible as yours (both your original comment, and your complete rewrite) occasionally encourage me to provide 'whinage' in rebuttal.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#122 - 2012-08-15 15:46:02 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:

.... more whinage....

I have a solution for you. GTFO of FW before you have a heart attack and your head explodes. Come back when they implement afk alt plexing fix.


1. Dude, **** you. Or, in forum-acceptable language, "gosh, don't say stuff like that, you might get a heart attack."

2. I'm not in FW. I am waiting for something like that. In the meantime, comments as terrible as yours (both your original comment, and your complete rewrite) occasionally encourage me to provide 'whinage' in rebuttal.

If you're not directly affected by FW, then why are you complaining so much?
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#123 - 2012-08-15 15:48:15 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:

.... more whinage....

I have a solution for you. GTFO of FW before you have a heart attack and your head explodes. Come back when they implement afk alt plexing fix.


1. Dude, **** you. Or, in forum-acceptable language, "gosh, don't say stuff like that, you might get a heart attack."

2. I'm not in FW. I am waiting for something like that. In the meantime, comments as terrible as yours (both your original comment, and your complete rewrite) occasionally encourage me to provide 'whinage' in rebuttal.

If you're not directly affected by FW, then why are you complaining so much?


He's jealous about people making more ISK than him, but too lazy to get out there and do what they're doing. He's one of those whiny little newfags who wants CCP to change the game to keep him on a level playing field, rather than putting in the work to get on the level.

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#124 - 2012-08-15 15:51:34 UTC
Thomas Kreshant wrote:

People keep going AFK alts all the time but i've never met any of these so called afk plexers.

99.999% of the plexers I've seen while on fresh characters like mine (FW does ruin standings on a main) they've all been present and simply grinding out LP to fund whatever else they do in eve.

Plexing alts have discussed extensively in 400 other FW threads since May. It's nice to know you have one. And since you were nitpicking "afk", you are outright lying when you say 99.999% of the plexers. So what was your point?
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#125 - 2012-08-15 15:54:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuehnelt
X Gallentius wrote:
If you're not directly affected by FW, then why are you complaining so much?


Is this a serious question or just an opportunity to say "complaining so much"? Have you already forgotten "I am waiting for something like [an afk plexing fix]." ? Do you suppose my not being in FW right now - something I was in, am obviously still following, and which I've expressed a conditional intention to return to - might have something to do with the state of FW? Nah, don't answer. Please just pray sincerely for my cardiovascular health.
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#126 - 2012-08-15 15:57:39 UTC
Xuixien wrote:
He's jealous about people making more ISK than him, but too lazy to get out there and do what they're doing.


Read: I don't want to farm on a Matar alt, a seriously hardcore, hard-working, non-lazy adaptation to the Amarr Militia being in the shitter for reasons that Minmatar and Gallente refuse to find more interesting than some malicious speculation about me.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#127 - 2012-08-15 16:03:35 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
Thomas Kreshant wrote:
Yes it's fine as Soundwave said himself there is nothing wrong with people wanting to do FW just to farm LP or do missions there is zero requirement for people to have to PVP, you can force them to pvp (die) if you can catch them of course but as he said it's not his (CCP) job to tell people how to play eve.


He also asked if there's a problem with that. Well, one problem with plex farmers is that they're actively boring to have around. They're just noise, making it harder for people who want to fight to find other people who want to fight. And didn't he say this in the context of FW missions, which are unambiguous farming sites? I did mention missioners, but I didn't really expect a fight from bombers.



I think he did mention this with respect to missions. I think the intent is clear that plexing should be a pvp activity involving lots of ship explosions. And to be clear the fanfest fw dev said the intent was to make plexing more profitable than mission running. They are actually moving in the right direction. Its just hard to see that now.

FW was a bucket with several holes. Inferno plugged several of the holes. However there are still a few to plug up, and until that is done the bucket is still broken.

Based on your posts I know you agree that just whining and saying redo it all is not helpful, and counterproductive. Lots of people including yourself understand how great fw plexing could be. That is why we care enough to keep posting to the damn forums XG!

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#128 - 2012-08-15 16:10:17 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Kuehnelt wrote:

.... more whinage....

I have a solution for you. GTFO of FW before you have a heart attack and your head explodes. Come back when they implement afk alt plexing fix.


1. Dude, **** you. Or, in forum-acceptable language, "gosh, don't say stuff like that, you might get a heart attack."

2. I'm not in FW. I am waiting for something like that. In the meantime, comments as terrible as yours (both your original comment, and your complete rewrite) occasionally encourage me to provide 'whinage' in rebuttal.

If you're not directly affected by FW, then why are you complaining so much?



Lots of people want to see the plexing mechanic really working right. That is why they are requesting it be fixed on the forums. This has been going on long before may. And long before may you have been claiming fw needs nothing but rewards and consequnces for plexing. Well we got those you may think everything is fine now. But others are finding out that fw still needs some work.

Really your posts would be better if you addressed the actual problems and solutions, instead of just calling everyone who recognizes fw could better a cry baby and telling them the solution is to just quit.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#129 - 2012-08-15 16:15:08 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Cearain wrote:
Well we got those you may think everything is fine now.

Name one character who thinks everything is fine now. Really guys, just stop. It's the same new "FW is borked!" thread every freaking day.

Unfettered noob alt plexing is a flaw. Hopefully it will get fixed. Even though it hasn't been fixed, there is still more great fun and pew in FW than anywhere else in New Eden.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#130 - 2012-08-15 16:26:09 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
Well we got those you may think everything is fine now.

Name one character who thinks everything is fine now. Really guys, just stop. It's the same new "FW is borked!" thread every freaking day.

Unfettered noob alt plexing is a flaw. Hopefully it will get fixed. Even though it hasn't been fixed, there is still more great fun and pew in FW than anywhere else in New Eden.



It won't get fixed if we don't ask for it.

And yes its better than anything else in new eden. But if it weren't better I would unsub.

Better than being a gate camping pirate? Yes. Better than being in a null sec blob? Yes. Better than running missions in high sec? Yes.

Does any of that say much? No.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#131 - 2012-08-15 16:28:02 UTC
Cearain wrote:
It won't get fixed if we don't ask for it.
It's been asked a thousand times. You guys are at the point of diminishing returns by asking the 1001st time.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#132 - 2012-08-15 16:38:01 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:
It won't get fixed if we don't ask for it.
It's been asked a thousand times. You guys are at the point of diminishing returns by asking the 1001st time.


Oh really you think it hasn't been fixed for years because we asked too much? Nice theory but I disagree.

I think we need to be loud and clear with ccp if we want plexing to be something other than alt farmville. People like you who post telling everyone to be quiet and quit complaining (even though you apparently secretly agree its broken) do nothing but muddle the issue.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#133 - 2012-08-15 16:45:36 UTC
Cearain wrote:

Oh really you think it hasn't been fixed for years because we asked too much? Nice theory but I disagree.
Didn't say that. I said you aren't gaining further ground by posting the same exact thing every freaking day.
Quote:

I think we need to be loud and clear with ccp if we want plexing to be something other than alt farmville. People like you who post telling everyone to be quiet and quit complaining (even though you apparently secretly agree its broken) do nothing but muddle the issue.
Obviously all you guys are going to do is continue to whine about this topic 23/7 until the winter expansion, so please do us all a favor and make your posts more entertaining to read.

Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#134 - 2012-08-15 16:52:28 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Oh really you think it hasn't been fixed for years because we asked too much? Nice theory but I disagree.
Didn't say that. I said you aren't gaining further ground by posting the same exact thing every freaking day.
Quote:

I think we need to be loud and clear with ccp if we want plexing to be something other than alt farmville. People like you who post telling everyone to be quiet and quit complaining (even though you apparently secretly agree its broken) do nothing but muddle the issue.
Obviously all you guys are going to do is continue to whine about this topic 23/7 until the winter expansion, so please do us all a favor and make your posts more entertaining to read.




Why do you think it will stop in the winter expansion? Do you think ccp will do something that will fix the problem? If so what?

Why do you keep reading these posts if you are not entertained?

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2012-08-15 16:54:50 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Cearain wrote:

Oh really you think it hasn't been fixed for years because we asked too much? Nice theory but I disagree.
Didn't say that. I said you aren't gaining further ground by posting the same exact thing every freaking day.
Quote:

I think we need to be loud and clear with ccp if we want plexing to be something other than alt farmville. People like you who post telling everyone to be quiet and quit complaining (even though you apparently secretly agree its broken) do nothing but muddle the issue.
Obviously all you guys are going to do is continue to whine about this topic 23/7 until the winter expansion, so please do us all a favor and make your posts more entertaining to read.



I dont think the complaining is whining - its a valid complaint. I do agree it gets old after a while, but that is CCP's fault for not acting on it in a timely manner.

Regardless, I suggest people post feedback in the test server forum. There are some threads there already. That way you know it will get read by a Dev because they hang out there alot.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#136 - 2012-08-15 17:05:49 UTC
Cearain wrote:
Why do you keep reading these posts if you are not entertained?

Very good question. Stopping now since my request that you be entertaining has been ignored. Big smile
Xuixien
Solar Winds Security Solutions
#137 - 2012-08-15 17:16:15 UTC
Whenever Cearain posts, I can't help but thinking "It's raining tears!"

Epic Space Cat, Horsegirl, Philanthropist
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#138 - 2012-08-15 17:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
Farmin like a boss Twisted

edit:with guns btw

nom nom
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#139 - 2012-08-15 19:24:44 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Farmin like a boss Twisted

edit:with guns btw


That is a lie. You know both of us are not fitting guns.

We're fitting missile launchers. Condors ftw!
Megos Adriano
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2012-08-15 19:59:00 UTC
chatgris wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
Farmin like a boss Twisted

edit:with guns btw


That is a lie. You know both of us are not fitting guns.

We're fitting missile launchers. Condors ftw!


Eh, let's try it. After all, it's just a Condor!

And boom goes the dynamite.