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Trans Gamers of EvE - TGoE

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Xenuria
#1 - 2012-08-15 19:24:29 UTC
After a lengthy discussion with Arancia Detto I have decided to form Trans Gamers of EvE, a community for anybody who identifies as Trans. Just as WGoE has and will continue to provide a safe place for Women who play eve so shall the Trans Gamers of Eve sister channel. The public channel will be open to all people who can show respect to others and behave in a mature, civilized fashion. The private channel will be open only to people who identify as trans and have gone through a simple interview process. Both the public and private channel will be administrated by me, I will elect moderators if the need arises. We do have some very basic rules for both channels, they are as follows.

Show respect at all times
No spamming or soliciting
No posting or discussing illegal content
Anything else I decided to add later depending on how things go.


Below you will find the channel name as well as the official twitter page where updates and fun things to discuss will be posted.
In-game Channel (Public): TGoE
Official Twitter Account: TGoEvE

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Sarik Olecar
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-08-15 19:27:58 UTC
Uhh, good luck I guess.

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Adalynne Rohks
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-15 19:31:44 UTC
I understand that being transgendered is rough, n'all, and it's good to have a group of people to get along with, but really...

I don't care what your gender is.
Jim Era
#4 - 2012-08-15 19:33:12 UTC
:s

Wat™
Xenuria
#5 - 2012-08-15 19:33:37 UTC
Adalynne Rohks wrote:
I understand that being transgendered is rough, n'all, and it's good to have a group of people to get along with, but really...

I don't care what your gender is.


I would not have done this if there was not already significant demand for it.

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#6 - 2012-08-15 19:33:44 UTC
I support the idea for all my trans friends.

Someone else should probably run it.
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-15 19:36:08 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I support the idea for all my trans friends.

Someone else should probably run it.


+1'ing
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#8 - 2012-08-15 19:36:18 UTC
Only bit I'm curious about...

Is this for those who are transgendered biologically (either through choice or not) or psychologically, or would you consider these equally under the purview of this new channel?
Yoshitaka Moromuo
Burning Skies
Apocalypse Now.
#9 - 2012-08-15 19:37:15 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
I support the idea for all my trans friends.

Someone else should probably run it.
Tibs, you've got a penchant for getting me to agree with you. I'm not sure whether I should tell you to keep it up, or stop :P
Lilliana Stelles
#10 - 2012-08-15 19:38:32 UTC
This feels like a cry for attention.

Or sounds like some guy who wanted into Wgoe wasn't allowed.

What's next, atheist vegetarians of Eve?

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Acac Sunflyier
The Ascended Academy
#11 - 2012-08-15 19:38:33 UTC
In before narrow minded troll post!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-08-15 19:41:58 UTC
I get the feeling that most transpeople in this game aren't exactly out. I know of at least one who isn't.

I predict this channel will be you, Jade Constantine, and a handful of others, and you'll eventually get bored with it and stop using the channel.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Xenuria
#13 - 2012-08-15 19:51:15 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Only bit I'm curious about...

Is this for those who are transgendered biologically (either through choice or not) or psychologically, or would you consider these equally under the purview of this new channel?



Gender is not biological, sex is.
Gender is a social construct.

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Adalynne Rohks
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-08-15 19:52:07 UTC
Well alrighty. But since we're all here, I gotsta ask...

Is there a general trans opinion on Lady Gaga? Hero? Bad example? Not related?

I swear that she's not a standardized "girl", but I couldn't really blame someone for not coming out and saying so. Rough situation to have to learn to deal with.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#15 - 2012-08-15 19:52:12 UTC
Moving this from General Discussion to My EVE.

Fantastic idea, by the way.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Whadafool
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-15 19:52:54 UTC
3/10, pretty funny

stuff
Xenuria
#17 - 2012-08-15 19:55:10 UTC
Adalynne Rohks wrote:
Well alrighty. But since we're all here, I gotsta ask...

Is there a general trans opinion on Lady Gaga? Hero? Bad example? Not related?

I swear that she's not a standardized "girl", but I couldn't really blame someone for not coming out and saying so. Rough situation to have to learn to deal with.


The idea of a "standard" for how a "girl" should act or behave is something that is heavily influenced by culture and religion.
Somebody from another country might think of lady gaga in one way in terms of female gender roles and somebody from yet another country or area may have a different opinion.

I do not speak for everybody, so I can not make a statement about lady gaga and claim that all trans people have the same opinion because trans is an umbrella term that encompasses a diverse group of people.

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Lilliana Stelles
#18 - 2012-08-15 19:56:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilliana Stelles
Xenuria wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Only bit I'm curious about...

Is this for those who are transgendered biologically (either through choice or not) or psychologically, or would you consider these equally under the purview of this new channel?



Gender is not biological, sex is.
Gender is a social construct.



This is false. Gender is the state of your sex, eg. male, female, or other.
Gender identity can be defined yourself and your society.
But gender has a definite value.

Edit:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002495/

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Xenuria
#19 - 2012-08-15 19:57:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Xenuria
Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Only bit I'm curious about...

Is this for those who are transgendered biologically (either through choice or not) or psychologically, or would you consider these equally under the purview of this new channel?



Gender is not biological, sex is.
Gender is a social construct.



This is false. Gender is the state of your sex, eg. male, female, or other.
Gender identity can be defined yourself and your society.
But gender has a definite value.


Incorrect.

Gender is not the same as your assigned sex, Gender is not static either. Female "gender" roles in the middle east for example are not the same as Female "gender" roles in the united states.

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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#20 - 2012-08-15 20:02:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Shalua Rui
While I never would attend a "special" channel based on my RL person, be it gender, sexuality, social standing or whatever, I can understand why people feel the need to find other people "like them" in a virtual community like EVE... so, good luck, by all means... just make sure you know what you are doing... In my opinion, a gaming community should never be a forum to discuss or, worse consult about possible psychological conditions... that's what therapists are for.

If all you are planning to achieve is a place where transgendered people can talk about topics that concearn them besides EVE... well, I guess there will be no harm in that...

Sidenote: Beeing transgendered is NO sickness in any meaning of the word...

"ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!" Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM)
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