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[Proposal] Palletizing
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niceandblue
Repercussus
#1 - 2012-08-15 01:22:35 UTC
I run a fair amount of logistics for our corp and alliance. Currently, when moving a lot of items for different people, the best method of keeping things straight seems to be creating courier contracts and setting them up to alts, then trading them back.

A simple solution could be a "create pallet" option for multiple items in station, since courier contracts will box everything up nice and neat for you anyway... This would save a lot of time and trouble.

Thoughts?

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Tarunik Raqalth'Qui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-15 03:53:05 UTC
niceandblue wrote:
I run a fair amount of logistics for our corp and alliance. Currently, when moving a lot of items for different people, the best method of keeping things straight seems to be creating courier contracts and setting them up to alts, then trading them back.

A simple solution could be a "create pallet" option for multiple items in station, since courier contracts will box everything up nice and neat for you anyway... This would save a lot of time and trouble.

Thoughts?

You'd think one'd just use containers for this...but there's no size between 3900m3 inside a GSC and the oh...100,000m3 that fits in a General Freight Container. Although, is there a reason you can't simply have people put their hauling requests in as corp (or alliance) courier contracts in the first place?
niceandblue
Repercussus
#3 - 2012-08-15 15:34:12 UTC
Tarunik Raqalth'Qui wrote:

You'd think one'd just use containers for this...but there's no size between 3900m3 inside a GSC and the oh...100,000m3 that fits in a General Freight Container. Although, is there a reason you can't simply have people put their hauling requests in as corp (or alliance) courier contracts in the first place?


That's how we run most freight for individuals, but there are times when either that system won't work for the occasion, or we're trying to move many things for the alliance while keeping them separate at the same time.

Also, smaller freight containers could be another useful solution Roll

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#4 - 2012-08-15 16:56:33 UTC
Not entirely sure what the "create pallet" does that a courier contract doesn't... (other than "not costing 10k ISK")?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
niceandblue
Repercussus
#5 - 2012-08-15 18:06:06 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
Not entirely sure what the "create pallet" does that a courier contract doesn't... (other than "not costing 10k ISK")?


Saves you the trouble and time of having to use alts just to get little cardboard.

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#6 - 2012-08-15 18:31:19 UTC
I can support something like this, with a few limitations:

Containers cannot go inside wrappers, and wrappers cannot go inside containers or other wrappers. If you want volume compression, it's going to require more work.

Wrappers cannot be jettisoned.

The contents of the wrapper should appear on dscan, and if a ship is destroyed the wrapper should be destroyed as well so that the loot drop rules are applied to its contents. After all, we're talking about strapping a bunch of items together for logistical ease, NOT putting them into something that would withstand the violent destruction of their transport.

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Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2012-08-15 19:26:31 UTC
niceandblue wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Not entirely sure what the "create pallet" does that a courier contract doesn't... (other than "not costing 10k ISK")?


Saves you the trouble and time of having to use alts just to get little cardboard.


eh?

Courier contracts are station to station ... where do you need an alt for setting one up?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#8 - 2012-08-15 21:17:59 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
niceandblue wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Not entirely sure what the "create pallet" does that a courier contract doesn't... (other than "not costing 10k ISK")?


Saves you the trouble and time of having to use alts just to get little cardboard.


eh?

Courier contracts are station to station ... where do you need an alt for setting one up?

You need one character to set it up, and another to accept it. It's an inconvenience that might be avoidable.

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Jacob Straven
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-08-16 01:07:00 UTC
Nice theory. Another way would be to "add label" so you can ID the client/owner. Then sort the cargo by label alphabetically.

Job done!
niceandblue
Repercussus
#10 - 2012-08-16 13:52:52 UTC
FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:

Containers cannot go inside wrappers, and wrappers cannot go inside containers or other wrappers. If you want volume compression, it's going to require more work.

Wrappers cannot be jettisoned.

The contents of the wrapper should appear on dscan, and if a ship is destroyed the wrapper should be destroyed as well so that the loot drop rules are applied to its contents. After all, we're talking about strapping a bunch of items together for logistical ease, NOT putting them into something that would withstand the violent destruction of their transport.


By 'dscan' you're referring cargo scan right? Also, consider the ability to put them into General Freight Containers, though I agree that they should be able to be scanned through the container.


Jacob Straven wrote:

Another way would be to "add label" so you can ID the client/owner. Then sort the cargo by label alphabetically.


Nice!

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FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#11 - 2012-08-16 14:20:46 UTC
niceandblue wrote:
By 'dscan' you're referring cargo scan right? Also, consider the ability to put them into General Freight Containers, though I agree that they should be able to be scanned through the container.

Yeah, I meant cargo scan. I promise, that's what I said in my head. Too many wormhole-related posts, my fingers go for "dscan" no matter what I mean to type.

I'd say no containers at all. I feel there should be a choice to make: containers for long-term storage, or wrappers for short-term. While I'm all for making inventory easy to manage, Eve is a game that generally doesn't give players an "all of the above" solution.

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