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Max Survivability Hookbill?
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John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#1 - 2012-08-15 15:39:43 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
I've been PVP with RvB for around a week now, and am looking for a fit for a Hookbill that provides max survivability and decent DPS. I am happy to sacrifice web and scram as there'll be 101 other ships with that there. I'd just like to last longer than 5 mins in a fight.

Thanks!

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-15 16:27:17 UTC
With a frig, 5 minutes is a good deal,man.

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-15 16:46:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Hrett
John Ratcliffe wrote:
I've been PVP with RvB for around a week now, and am looking for a fit for a Hookbill that provides max survivability and decent DPS. I am happy to sacrifice web and scram as there'll be 101 other ships with that there. I'd just like to last longer than 5 mins in a fight.

Thanks!


TD Hookbill is just about unkillable by a turret ship if you manage to get in a stable orbit. The only way I have been able to shake one is to fly through an asteroid/debris field inside a plex to get him caught on a structure to break his orbit/point and allow me to warp off.

I dont fly them personally, but I dont like to fight them. Look on some of the Caldari FW guys' killboards in FW. Super Chair and his corp Project Cerberus(sp) fly them well. Check their lossmails and you will find some good fits.

EDIT: Here ya go:

http://gallente.eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=132102&view=losses&m=08&y=2012

Just browsing, I see some TD fits, armor fits, shield fits, dual web fits and dual prop fits. Experiment. Its a nasty little ship because of all of its mid slots.

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IHaveCandyGetInTheVan69
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
#4 - 2012-08-15 17:25:07 UTC
Depends how much you want to spend, the triple Sensor Damp fit is neigh on invincible in 1v1s, so its very survivable however in bigger groups its quite fragile.

Downside is you end up spending 1/2 bill on a frig to get it cap stable.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#5 - 2012-08-15 18:09:31 UTC
A 1v1 fit is no good - RvB has mass battles, with 40 or more ships on each side. I accept that nothing is going to survive attack by 40 ships, but max survivability is a must.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-08-15 18:28:18 UTC
John Ratcliffe wrote:
A 1v1 fit is no good - RvB has mass battles, with 40 or more ships on each side. I accept that nothing is going to survive attack by 40 ships, but max survivability is a must.


If that is your criteria, slap on an MAPC, Co-Processor II and 3 fitting rigs and load your mids with MASBs, Invulns and Extenders.

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Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#7 - 2012-08-16 01:07:42 UTC
Max survivability Hookbill is called a Merlin. You can get 28,000 EHP out of a merlin, and its going to cost you less than a shiny hookbill which will turn into an explosion the first time you take it to a fleet fight.
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-08-16 01:25:03 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Max survivability Hookbill is called a Merlin. You can get 28,000 EHP out of a merlin, and its going to cost you less than a shiny hookbill which will turn into an explosion the first time you take it to a fleet fight.


What?


How?
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
#9 - 2012-08-16 04:58:02 UTC
Pure meta gaming. The 28k EHP merlin is completely useless except as a pile of hitpoints, but I've seen it (and used it) effectively in RvB. Get a name for flying paper-thin gank boats... then bring this out and laugh as they primary you... and do nothing.

As for the fit... it requires heating invuls. Only 24k with no heat.

[Merlin, BRICK]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Traejun DiSanctis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-08-16 05:04:40 UTC
Paikis wrote:
Pure meta gaming. The 28k EHP merlin is completely useless except as a pile of hitpoints, but I've seen it (and used it) effectively in RvB. Get a name for flying paper-thin gank boats... then bring this out and laugh as they primary you... and do nothing.

As for the fit... it requires heating invuls. Only 24k with no heat.

[Merlin, BRICK]
Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
Power Diagnostic System II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Shield Extender II
Medium Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, EMP S

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I



This kind of stupid. It will still get killed super duper fast.
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-08-16 05:42:44 UTC
Yes dumb Merlin fit.

And also, 5 minutes is a really really really long time.

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Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-08-16 07:32:21 UTC
You want to survive a fleet fight?
Go fit a cloak.
Lol
Jude Lloyd
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-08-16 07:39:28 UTC
Sola Mercury wrote:
You want to survive a fleet fight?
Go fit a cloak.
Lol


Or fly something that won't be primary till the end, like a Bantum.

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Markius TheShed
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#14 - 2012-08-16 09:22:46 UTC
Check out the new improved Condor

[Condor,]
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

Warp Scrambler II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Scourge Rage Rocket
[empty high slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Warhead Calefaction Catalyst I

All the new Frigs are great fun and this is cheaper than a Hookbill

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-08-16 09:40:32 UTC
Speed tank it and stay out of the mele. 40 frigs will pwn any tank you have once your primaried

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John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#16 - 2012-08-16 10:25:46 UTC
Thank you gents - more food for thought! Blink

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
W0lf Crendraven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-08-16 11:50:51 UTC
Get a kitebill, i.e fit with light missile launchers, mwd , a bit of tank, mwd, stay aligned and warp off if something comes into 24km range! (probably rig it for missile range to be super bad)!

(also for pure eft warrioring, the best ehp i can get out of a hookbill would be 112,85 ehp )