Wormholes

In my experience the RR tengu's only get surpassed by capital setups.

In the past, we've run succesfull ops with RR battleships, and a setup with logi cruisers and bc's / t3's. Both shield and armor.
I wouldn't recommend the battleships though. They are heavy on the mass and pretty slow.
If you go for logi's, take guardians for armor, and basi's for shield so you can remote energy transfer to counter neuts. You'll need atleast 2, and those logi pilots need to be on the ball.

The advantage of tengu's is obviously the missiles, making range a non-issue. For a c5, you'll need atleast 5 RR tengu's. If you have those, you can mix in other ships like a drakes, i've seen nightmares and machariels aswell.

As above for a C5 you would need a baseline of 5 cap stable, passive resist tanked, RR tengus to run comfortably non-escalated and then you can add in what you like. Alternatively you could use a 4x spider tanking domi setup but then mass and mobility (or lack of) is more of a consideration. Webbing lokis are a good addition, you can even get good RR options out of them to supplement the repping, their autocannons are good for dealing with frigs and the webs let you increase the effective dps of everything especially nice if you also have a nightmare in fleet.

I really wouldn't bother with C6s unless your capital escalating as some of the normal waves on there are the equivalent of the cap escalation waves in a C5 and without a minimum of 7 RR tengus or a carrier repping you will struggle.

C4s can be mostly done with an RR pair but theres a couple of waves including one that has 4x safeguard BS that will put a lot of hurt on 2 tengus and you'd need more like 3-4 to be safe.

If I mix in Drakes or Canes, do they also need to use RR or do they got repped by the tengus?

I just tried some RR Fitting with EFT for the drakes, but I can only get em cap stable with a medium shield transporter:

[Drake, WH RR Passive]
Damage Control II
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Quantum Co-Processor

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Pithum A-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier
Pithum A-Type EM Ward Amplifier

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Trauma Fury Heavy Missile
Medium S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Hobgoblin II x3
Hobgoblin II x2


Is this any good? With canes I totally struggle as I can´t get any good resis on them.

Forget about the canes for sites, they are crap.

remote shield transfer means that you have to stay close to each other. if you take along ships without range (i'd recommend 70km at least for c4 anos) they add only very little applied dps.

take a look at eve survival, you can see the incoming dps for each wave in each ano there. afterwards you can check your tank in the fitting tool of your choice and see if it's enough.

if you plan to fly anos only in your home system, rather go battleship than battlecruiser until you all can fly tengus.

i put a more or less crappy drake fitting together that should work. it's cap stable (with my skills) and every remote shield transfer on it will add about 300 dps tank - taking a passive siege warfare fleet booster into account. it also has a little bit of shield buffer to give you time to react.
when running sites, two of your guys should always take care of the one that is attacked. and as soon as someone gets neuted, the shield transfer should go offline. also watch triggers, once you **** up it's quite likely that you are ****** up.

[Drake, dark]

7x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Caldari Navy Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
Caldari Navy EM Ward Amplifier
2x Cap Recharger II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II
2x Beta Reactor Control: Capacitor Power Relay I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Yeah if you have 5x tengus in there then you don't absolutely have to have RR on the drakes, I wouldn't even bother with canes. It doesn't hurt to have RR on the drakes tho but to get a large RR fitted on and cap stable or atleast a decently long lasting time it can rep for requires high enough skills that person should be able to fly a tengu anyway.

I can't say I'd reccomend 3x tengus for a C5 site, while technically possible with the right fit and experience your gonna be there a long time running the site as some waves spider rep upto around 700dps negating half your dps. 4 means you break through their reps much quicker and 5 means you can get through them fairly speedily.

For C4's we use 1 Basilisk with a Dominix Cap partner who reps the Basi when it gets primaried... And from there, other ships are shield buffered anything really. As long as their resists are 70% or higher, they stay alive

Can do any C6 site with 8 Tengu

Question asker: guys what ship should my group use to run sleeper sites? We only use armour ships so can't field a tengu fleet...

Answers: durrrrh, tengus are awesome, try those.