EVE General Discussion

There isn't necessarily anything wrong with armor, it fits a few niche things quite well(some blobbing, solo pvp megathron and dominix, afk mission domi, etc.). But EvE would be more interesting if most armor boats were slightly more useful in general terms. For example, it's cool that an armor myrm can have 4 spare mid slots and the ehp of a drake but it's not practical in small fleet warfare because it's 300m/s slower than the drake, does 150 less dps, can't safe up and regen HP, and takes 6 seconds longer to align(max skills dual 1600 myrm takes 17 seconds, 0 nano drake 11.7s). So unlike a drake or cane which are forgiving when things go south you are instantly screwed if you are in an armor myrm or harbi. Speaking of the poor harbinger, have you ever tried to buffer fit a harbinger? Armor plates require a large amount of powergrid, you could give the harbinger 400 more grid and it'd still fit tight if you wanted to use good pulse lasers. As for the argument to put an 800 on the harbi instead, you may as well just go get a shield hurricane it has almost as many EHP, but goes over 50% faster.

A while back I was solo raiding a C1 wormhole with a shield cane and grabbed a drake knowing he was bait. When he hit mid shield a pilgrim decloaked and another drake landed. As the first drake hit low hull the pilgrim's ECM drones jammed me, I hit heat on my MWD and blasted off towards a celestial and waited for my drones to get in before I left. In an armor harbi I'd have been completely screwed even with a rack of ec-600's in it 3 ships would be a nearly impossible jam. In an armor myrmidon I'd have been just as dead as I would in the harbi but the first drake wouldn't have even had its shield tank broken.

I'd like to be able to use all of the armor ships for a change of pace, just not literally. I know I get spare mid slots but I don't always engage in PvP where I know I'll win (unlike a lot of people) and those mid slots mean nothing when it's not an equal numbers fight.

Yeah, they also thought that unified inventory was a good idea, that we would be satisfied with us being unable to open the DOOR... It's commonly thought (if not known) that players-know-better-about-the-game-than-devs.

I agree that damps are not the most easy-to-use tool, but I can tell you that it is a viable choice for small engagment situations.. precisely where 'passive tanking' in armor (I hate that term) is less present. :)



Active armor/shield tanking are viable choice in only a small part of all the possible situations anyway.

The difference is that when you're active shield it leaves you even less room for E-WAR, then even less possibilities in medium size engagments. As opposed to the armor version, but this last one may be in some cases less efficient in terms of tanking than it's shield version.

So again I think that it is more a matter of knowing 'what you can do' (and you can do a lot of things in both styles).

Its too bad that the game requires people to fly fleets of only one race

I agree, I think armor is totally fine right now, and shield are fine also.