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EVE Online mentioned as a video game to watch for military Commanders
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Tetrix Akuta
Intaki Pure
#1 - 2011-10-12 23:53:22 UTC
It turns out that its not only real world econ people that watch EVE Online... its also military minds. Check out this defense blog review of video games to watch.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#2 - 2011-10-12 23:58:49 UTC
And between talking about EVE Online and WoW, the author chose to talk more about WoW.....

Yeah, wow is a pretty militaristic game..

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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
Doomheim
#3 - 2011-10-13 00:09:30 UTC
Ugh!
The Apostle
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-10-13 00:12:47 UTC
Quote:
The twist to the game is that these fleets serve no emperor nor press for geographic control. Everyone works for an interstellar conglomerate and the name of the game is economics.

I lolled at this bit... he obviously doesn't know about GSF nor does he understand that geographic control IS Eve economics 101?

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Tear Miner
Doomheim
#5 - 2011-10-13 00:15:36 UTC
Poorly written...

Poorly supports its conclusions...

Oh wait, it's a blog.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#6 - 2011-10-13 00:17:40 UTC
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The game's universe has a government -- the Council of Stellar Management



wut?


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Morganta
The Greater Goon
#7 - 2011-10-13 00:18:26 UTC
Tear Miner wrote:
Poorly written...

Poorly supports its conclusions...

Oh wait, it's a political blog.


fixed that for ya
Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-10-13 00:21:58 UTC
Wheres the sov influence map?

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Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-10-13 00:25:33 UTC
That entire article was a bunch of "video games are cool because they're kind of real" masturbatory fluff. There was essentially nothing to be gleaned from reading it. Ugh
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#10 - 2011-10-13 00:36:40 UTC
"World of Warcraft is an MMO driven by conflict" stopped reading there.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Mirima Thurander
#11 - 2011-10-13 01:02:57 UTC
the only thing about eve in that is the one time EvE was mentioned by name

All automated intel should be removed from the game including Instant local/jumps/kills/cynos for all systems/regions.Eve should report nothing like this to the client/3rd party software.Intel should not be force fed to players. Player skill and iniative should be the sources of intel.
Taedrin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-10-13 01:07:55 UTC
While it's nice to see people highlight how interesting EVE can be, that blog had a lot of words that essentially said nothing at all. Did not contain any real information whatsoever.
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#13 - 2011-10-13 01:09:48 UTC
me thinks this is a very poorly disguised spam post
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#14 - 2011-10-13 01:24:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Quote:
The game's universe has a government -- the Council of Stellar Management



wut?





LOL yeh I caught that as well
He also had other comments that were way off.
The writer clearly doesn't understand how EVE works.

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JamesCLK
#15 - 2011-10-13 01:36:03 UTC  |  Edited by: JamesCLK
What a load of hogwash. X

I've read more thorough articles on EN24, and they're a quasi propaganda media site for christs sake. Roll

While I'll remember that these articles, or 'blogs' are written by people who thoroughly believe 'America's Army' was a successful game - even though in reality it was a recruitment drive, given away, for free, to college students, as an attempt to make them join the army and make their 'ideals' seem invincible - this article just leaves a bad taste in my mouth, worse than rotten icelandic shark washed down with a gallon of black death.

Seriously, did Sir Molle write this? Because I am dissapoint.

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In short: Where's the meat?!Evil

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stoicfaux
#16 - 2011-10-13 02:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: stoicfaux
Err... am I the only to find it interesting that Eve's cultural/economics/conflict model developed organically instead of being controlled or guided by CCP towards some grand goal?

Basically, the only gem in the blog was this:
"The key point for researchers and military simulations specialists, though, is that all of the aforementioned complexity came not as a result of ingenious programming or oversight, but evolved in a truly organic way. Given that such primacy has been placed on the "shaping operations" of counter-insurgency in modern conflicts, we should reconsider how we approach the digital simulation frontier"

Basically, he's making the point that programmers can design a scenario simulator to predict and model outcomes, but if you really want your simulator to predict anything, watch what the people (players) do within a given ruleset/set of constraints. Meaning, if you make a driving simulator you're just going to see people driving fast, however if you write a simulator that allows people to develop their own vehicles to meet the goal of getting from point A to B, you'll get some very interesting vehicles and/or behaviors that the programmers would never thing of directly coding.

Example: a racing simulator will just encourage drivers to go fast around a track. However, with a sandbox driving simulator, you'll probably wind up with people "winning" not necessarily with speed and handling but by putting guns on their cars, driving through walls, deliberately causing crashes, or even redefining what it means to win.

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#17 - 2011-10-13 02:48:54 UTC
I can confirm the US navy does observe eve online and the US army supposivly has AI in this game.

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The Apostle
Doomheim
#18 - 2011-10-13 02:59:23 UTC
Nova Fox wrote:
the US army supposivly has AI in this game.

What as, RMT bots to help fund the war effort?

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