EVE General Discussion

I agree with the OP

No boosting in or nearby a pos...

if that's not enough nerf, perhaps a "% increase in signature" per running link, nothing that will bloom the signature much higher than a battlecruiser, just enough for it to be considerd "slightly easier" to probe down, EI not needing perfect skills and implants and faction probes and all that, but still taking a few attempts to get to 100% (at least when it's "unprobeable fit")

also I think 5 people is too few... should at least be an entire squad (10-11)

Leave boosting as it is there's absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Bad posters dont recognize that the entire cluster is the battlefield and if a booster at a POS is a problem for you its due to you not having the imagination, intellect, willpower or resources to deal with it. The tools are already in the game its up to you to use them or stop sucking while using them. Stop forcing others to conform to your myopic definition of pvp.

Bad players dictate that roaming 10 man gangs should have the resources to take down a POS before engaging in lowsec roaming gang PvP. Bad players assume that off grid boosters are different to AFK sentry domi ratting. After all, the current situation is in your favour, why would you argue against it?

Bad players need their OGB AFK alt because they insist on flying ships they can't afford to replace.

Why do you think falcons are still viable and not just removed from the game? People pay subs for these alts, and this creates more revenue. They are not short-term alt subs either, I've been running my alt for more than 2 years.

CCP needs money bad since they are working on two games now instead of one, did you forget that dust 514 existed? Oh wait, theres also world of darkness. Why do you assume CCP doesn't want $?

And long term balance is more important than subs? LoL. Do you not remember how long hybrids were horrible for? I for one didn't even expect them to ever balance that weapon system. And It isn't "balance is good" It is "greed is good"





Just because you call something wrong, twice... Doesn't make it wrong.

If falcons were removed from the game, would falcon alts sudden become more expensive because people want to fly scorpions? No that makes no sense.

Removing OGB will reduce the demand for leadership skills, think long and hard if you decide to disagree again.



If you have enough logi you can keep almost anything alive.




How are you comparing an off grid booster to a BOT. BOTS are against the rules and considered cheating, they destroy a games economy and promote gold laundering. No **** they are going to ban bots.

Trust me, there are more OGB alts than datacore farming alts... Nobody even did that crap, and OGB alts are dedicated to doing one thing and thats being a booster/scout. Datacores are such a small part of the game that removing them won't make anybody rage unsub their accounts, those accounts were probably being used as something else.

In a lack of better words, You are comparing a full time job alt to a part time side job.

Datacores go away? Big deal... OGB goes away... Actually a big deal.


And post with your Main please.



Why are you guys so eager to fly those lame fleet command ships anyways lmao.

I bet after a few battles you will soon realize it isn't as fun as you thought it would be.


What will happen is:

Every fight you will do 100 dps or less,.

And you will always be primary.

No Dps and dies first, seems like fun.

This proposal makes sense. I like it.

Well, hopefully CCP realizes that this makes their "player base" (in quotes, as it's often one guy with 10 alts) very fragile.

If that one guy quits, for whatever reason - work, family, illness, loss of interest, better game, etc - they will lose not one account, but ten. If this happened on a large enough scale - like in case of a better game - the population could collapse to unsustainable level virtually overnight.

I mean, we're being given numbers like 450 subscriptions. Does that mean 450k unique individuals? Probably not. It likely means 450k paid/PLEXed accounts. Suppose an average EVE player has 3 accounts. Which I think is not too far from the truth. That means there's only 150k actual players. That's a pretty tiny and fragile population, as the Incarnageddon dip last year showed. It could easily fall 10% or more at the drop of a hat.

In other words, if CCP are smart, they will change game mechanics to encourage MORE PEOPLE, not more accounts. Current off-grid passive boosting encourages more accounts. Which in turns drives away people. I myself am pretty unhappy with being handicapped unless I use an alt account to boost myself. It's not enough to make me quit yet, but in the back of my mind it's yet another minus against EVE. Which I feel is a huge mistake.

More people is always better than more accounts.

Eh, i hate small gang off-grid boosting more than anything.

Umm... Why it's so difficult to just train CS5?

Why not just put a limitation on the boosters themselves that prevents warp for a short period of time and prevents use inside a POS?

While in a POS you cannot boost, fleet boosters do not work while in warp and you cannot initiate warp for 5 seconds after disengaging fleet booster.

This will require the booster to be in system and provides ample time for anybody trying to scan for him to scan him down and kill him. No more invulnerable fleet boosters but still off grid.

I'm sure someone has already said this: both sides can have OGB's. What is the big deal? It's fair by it's very nature. Anybody can train the skills, buy the hulls and mods. I'm not seeing what the problem is.

The OP points out the issues between T3 versus Command ships boosting, but that's a different issue of fairness based upon training times and functionality. I mean, if you are one of the people who trained command ships, I can see your beef.