Warfare & Tactics

Necessary for what exactly?

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The minmatard farming offensive is only 44h old but the gunless frigate swarm have already made 2 systems vulnerable. Another 10 systems is contested 70-90%. When those twelve systems are put into vulnerable state the gunless minmatards only need 21 more systems and they are currently contested at 18-70%.

In less than 2 days the minmatar militia is almost 2/3 on their way to T5 warzone control. That is a new record! Some claim this is because minmatar are are brave and well organized fighters. There are even rumors some of them fit guns on their ships. But it is also easy to see that the sheer number of gunless frigates is virtually unbeatable.

Superior numbers have always been an advantage in EVE. But this is not your ordinary blob. EVE has evolved and now the blob doesn't even need guns to win the war and warp core stabilizers are in high demand.

Define "we" please.

Bad attempt at trolling on his part as quite a few systems were vulnerable shortly after Nulli entered the area. It's just that Nulli had no vested interest to bust systems until enough were vulnerable and their members had farmed enough LP to properly cash in on those navy geddons or whatever they wanted to make their doctrine again.

It's the same thing in both fronts. Farmer alts of all militias stay in systems which are already vulnerable and nobody lives in and if they are stupid enough to take gunless frigates to peoples home systems, they are lucky to get 1 plex done before they get chased out. Sometimes said farmer alts get killed and podded even for merely peeking into such systems and words quickly gets around among the carebears that some systems just are not worth it.

I dont see anybody in any militia having interest to defend a system they dont live in or know their friends live in since the number of farming alts is just so silly across the board.

So we are now in "Bantustan" situation I predicted with home systems being contested anywhere between 0-10% and pretty much everything else being permanently vulnerable and waiting for the next LP dump cycle...

No I dont think so in the least and i've voiced my displeasure of it in other threads and nowhere I said that Amarr should HTFU*. I have quite enough minmatar carebears like Xuixien in our space whose achievements in Eve are limited to running away and spamming local, not to mention usual gallente plex bears.

*Unless you count suggestions that perhaps when systems are flipped, Amarr could attempt to create more dynamic battlefield by putting some "boots" to Metropolis.

Caldari militia is able to hold several enemy systems deep within enemy space and we are massively outnumbered by the Gallente in both pvp & farming toons (Most gallente players have 1-2 matar farming alts). Of course Gallente will now make the obligatory "Lies, we get blobbed all the time" post like they have done for the past years whenever someone dares to say the truth about the warzone.

All I know is, that if mechanics forces me to chase random pve noobie alts in t1 frigs (or even better - to create my own noobie alts for ultimate button spinning) just to defend territory of my militia, it is bad mechanics.

Not that these alts will stay in the plex and wait for you if you actually decide to hunt them. Solution? Go hunting noob pve alts with your skirmish boosted pvp ship so you can get at least few of them. By reading some replies in this forum, I guess its actually relevant "pvp" for some people.

Gj ccp, changing faction warfare from fight club to farm fest - best idea ever.

Go go minmatar minions go go!!

Plex all the systems!

Seriously though. Good job to everyone involved.

There will be cake and cookies for all on TS even for your glorious alt Sync.

I think this brings raises a couple of points.
1) we should have kept plexing longer to hit tier 5. Not only for the payout. But so that we would have more time to bring in a larger stable of farmers. We were gaining alt farmers. But then we cut it short.

2) Its not so much Defensive plexing is still a bad idea. If we want to dedicate 40 pilots to holding kourm that is great as long as everyone is having fun. But the rest of the warzone will flip unopposed.

If we decided we did not care about kourm - or really any particulat system, and base outside fw space then we could continue to offensive plex and continue to force minmatar to spend time dplexing for nothing. We could divide that 40 person group into 10 groups of 4 and really make a fight of it. As far as defending our space we are better off just chasing around out the farmers and disrupting them. Not actually doing defensive plexing. We don't need large fleet to do that. We would do much better at plexing. But we don't really seem to care about the plexing war. And i think there are some good reasons not to care about it with the current mechanics.


But again. I am not criticizing amarr here. We are deciding not to play the plexing game, and I am not faulting anyone who makes that decision. I am just saying I hope the amarr rank and file understand that minmatar will be hitting t5 again and fast. I hope it doesn't disrupt our morale and cause us to curse the stars and ccp.