EVE General Discussion

You are very confused about what PvP consists of in EVE. You've just suggested the removal of PvP content. Why would you do that if you want to show some kind of “pure PvP”?

Same here. You've listed things that are PvP to be removed from this “pure PvP” thing you're envisioning.

…and the source for that number is…?

Sure you do. As a PVPer who loses ships, I want manufacturers to give them to me for free. You refuse to do so, thus harming my ability to keep PVPing for free. Thus, by charging ISK for your manufactured goods, you are engaging in non-consensual Market PVP.

By the way, I don't have a problem with that. But unless you're playing on SISI, you're engaged in PVP against someone.

People like the OP think they matter to Eve

One thing always left out in these risk vs reward debates is that there is an aspect that is a reward that can't be balanced against the in game rewards. That aspect is the reward of explosions, or causing another player to lose something of value. Things of that nature.

So how do you balance that in the game (realistically).

Where the **** are all these pvpers whining at?

Dementia is a sign of serious illness, you should see a doctor.

OP is a Troll, crappy one, but a Troll non the less (cred does go for tolling to page 4 at this time)

But look at it this way:

If there was a complete Null Sec style server , with all ships and mods seeded and no industry, how many would join?

If there was a complete High Sec style server, with only at the most a PVP flagging system in place, how many would join?

Me? neither, I enjoy EVE as it is, heck even lost a ship tonight when I feel asleep, my bad

EVE is the more than the sum of it parts, it's something greater =)

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity

Eve without PVP. There you go carebears.

Just a suggestion OP... to everyone posting actually. Always start your post with an explaination of what just happened to you that triggered your rage and rather than suggesting a mechanical change, ask for advice.

You would be suprised how fast the community would rally and give you advice if you just told them what ****** thing happened to you. People on this forum I find are extremly helpful and full of useful information IF and ONLY IF, rather than complain about the mechanics you post what happen and ask for advice.

Just a suggestion. I get the rage, I have been there many times.... swallow it .. and ask for advice.. thats my advice. This community might suprise you and you might just walk away from the experiance learning something useful that can help you in the future to avoid whatever it was that triggered your rage.

Ooer thread is still going? lol at most of the responces

You see this is what EvE

A small vocal majority on the forums leading the game while the rest of us suffer because your to stupid to know when to stop.

I propose an idea and then what

4 pages of being trolled and called a fail? a prick? a child in his mothers basement? Lets war dec him for good against his account?

Because of what? Because i took all of the pvp whine threads and said to ccp, lets get rid of the carebears, the ones they hate so much for no reason other than they dont play the game how u like to play

why?

Because you force your style of game play and the reason u do it is this is the ONLY MMO where it can be done, its why u slate wow/gw2 because if you tried this crap in that game, ud be banned so fast u wouldnt know what happend.

If you dont want a pvp game full on, stop interfering with those who have no interest in pvp

Its pathetic, throw your toys out the pram

/troll on

…and you have something statistics-like to back that up, presumably?

We do. That's why we play EVE.
If people have no interest in PvP, maybe it was a bit suboptimal to choose to play a PvP-centric game.

Sure. As soon as they stop interfering with everyone else.