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Hyena: My Favourite PVP Ship and A Model of T2 Specialization

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Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-08-14 10:12:50 UTC
Many of you are asking yourself "WTF is a hyena? Is that a ship?"

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hyena

To summarize, the Hyena is a very fast, very nimble frigate with a powerful stasis webifcation bonus. It is capable of sending a T2 web out 20km BEFORE you even begin talking about overheating, skirmish links, and pimped modules.

The Hyena unfortunately has a poor reputation because many consider it to be overshadowed by the Rapier/Huggin. Others feel that the Hyena lacks DPS and therefore is useless. However, in my experience the Hyena is an unsung hero of small gang pvp.

Why The Hyena?

First of all, a Hyena is less than 1/5th the price of a Huggin/Rapier. This makes it very, very, affordable in a small gang situation where you don't always get fights you like.

[Hyena, CLASSIFIED'S Hyena]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Medium Shield Extender II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II

125mm Gatling AutoCannon II,EMP S //For killing drones, not for fighting ships. Never get <10km in a Hyena.
125mm Gatling AutoCannon II,EMP S

Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I

As you can see my Hyena fit is very specialized. It is designed to web, and to do it very well. It is cap stable and can easily cruise at 3.5km/s until time stops, and is nimble enough to kite effectively. The MSE II provides quite a bit of protection, and it has saved my ass many times when a Cynabal or Vagabond has gotten a few lucky shots.

In small gang pvp there is no ship I enjoy flying more than the Hyena. Maybe this is because it is so underestimated and it feels good to be the deciding force in an encounter. A good Hyena pilot can be the difference between catching that Tengu and watching it run away/kill a few people on the way out. I don't feel a need to be a high DPS brawler, I'd rather be a combat multiplier.

Not to mention in a 0.0 bubble camp it really shines because it can sit at 0 on a gate and shut down fast ships that try to either crash the gate/burn out of the bubble.

In some ways, my Hyena is more resilient than a Rapier/Huggin. Many pilots don't actually know what a Hyena is, and they ignore it completely until they notice what just happened to their max velocity. Also, since I can go so fast, I have far more wiggle room to get myself in and out of nasty situations than a Force/Combat Recon can. Finally, even with the sig radius penalties of a MWD and MSE Extended setup, I still take very little damage while kiting.

The Hyena is a Model of T2 and What it Stands For

CCP is re-balancing ships and getting back to the original idea of T2 being specialized, T3 being generalized, and T1 being a standard baseline. I believe that the Hyena is one of the best constructed T2 ships in the game and should be a model for the T2 balance to come.

T2 is about specialization, and the Hyena is extremely specialized. It does not project DPS, you will never get more than 60dps out of a Hyena. My Hyena fit can't even apply DPS consistently due to range! However, it is extremely good at what it does: staying alive and slowing down enemy ships.

The Hyena should be the poster child of the T2 re-balance because it is perfectly balanced. It has a specialized role, webbing, and it has supporting abilities to make that role possible (tank + speed). Nobody will argue the Hyena is an overpowered ship, but it is very very good within its particular role.

I love the Hyena, and it loves me.
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2012-08-14 10:15:53 UTC
Ps... Wrong guy, your posting things that may even be relevant on your forum troll alt.
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-08-14 10:22:51 UTC
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for

im a pubby and im proud

Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-08-14 10:26:29 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for



I'd pick the Hyena over the Vindicator without a doubt, but probably because I like gaming with other people Lol

brb

Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-08-14 10:29:00 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for



IF your serious...cause It's cheap, has the web bonus that many small gangs lack because they didn't have a rapier/hugin/loki to shove in, and because the (WTF, is that actually a hyena??) Factor. You nearly never see ewar frigs, but if you do, 99% says it's a kitsune or a keres. Half of EVE would have to look up your ship to know what it does.

I may be personally biased against them because of an unfortunate incident involving orbiting a hurricane pinning it down quite happily before getting waffled into a group of asteroids and dropping to 0 transverse.
Mutant Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-08-14 10:30:07 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for

If your Vindi is only pushing 1,500 DPS, you are doing something horribly wrong. With my poor skills, I hit 2035 DPS and 157k EHP.
Pipa Porto
#7 - 2012-08-14 10:42:14 UTC
The Keres is another great EAF.

It's a fantastic fast tackle/decloaking ship for 0.0 bubble camps.

Sit it on the gate, start spooling your MWD when they jump into you, then burn at them for the decloak. You go 5300m/s with a heated MWD, and once you decloak your victim, you have 4 full seconds before forgetting to stop takes you out of scram range.

Then, once a heavier tackle takes over, you GTFO (if it can shoot back, ofc), 'cause you are flim-sy.

[Keres, Camping Tackle]

Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Domination Warp Scrambler (Also works with T2, but you don't have as much leeway to stop.)
Warp Disruptor II
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Null S

Small Targeting System Subcontroller II
Small Targeting System Subcontroller II

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Pipa Porto
#8 - 2012-08-14 10:45:00 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for


Web range, Survibility, Cost, Mobility, etc.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Othran
Route One
#9 - 2012-08-14 11:27:11 UTC
CCP said ages ago they'd be looking at EAFs as they're one of the least used classes of ship.

I think all they need to do is give them the same bonus as interceptors - ie 15% reduction in mwd sig radius per level.

EAFs are a bit too expensive/fragile to cope with the sig radius bloom a mwd gives them but fitting an AB certainly isn't a viable option for a Hyena.

You can probably live with an AB on a Keres or Kitsune but mwd with interceptor sig radius bonus would mean they'd get used a lot more. I would have concerns about the Keres becoming OP though as its a fraction off being a brilliant ship now.

Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#10 - 2012-08-14 11:47:49 UTC
Ships & Modules -->

/troll

I also find the EAFs to be interesting little frigates. They are fast and nimble, and greatly multiply a fleet's power. While I've never been impressed with the Kitsune do to its slot layout, I like the Keres. Unfortunately, I've never had much luck with them due to one simple fact:

They are too fragile. They instapop when even so much as harsh language is directed in their direction.

I take that back. Malaku's harsh language will never pop a Keres. Proof has been given elsewhere. But they are very weak.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#11 - 2012-08-14 12:03:26 UTC
good post is good
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-08-14 16:54:00 UTC
Othran wrote:
CCP said ages ago they'd be looking at EAFs as they're one of the least used classes of ship.

I think all they need to do is give them the same bonus as interceptors - ie 15% reduction in mwd sig radius per level.

EAFs are a bit too expensive/fragile to cope with the sig radius bloom a mwd gives them but fitting an AB certainly isn't a viable option for a Hyena.

You can probably live with an AB on a Keres or Kitsune but mwd with interceptor sig radius bonus would mean they'd get used a lot more. I would have concerns about the Keres becoming OP though as its a fraction off being a brilliant ship now.



I hope that's on top of the current bonus because I think the Hyena is beautiful the way it is now. Hope CCP doesn't mess them upBig smile

I think that a lot of people don't realize just how powerful these frigates can be in small gang pvp. They skip right to their big sisters.
Demolishar
United Aggression
#13 - 2012-08-14 17:18:37 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for



IF your serious...cause It's cheap,.



A Vindi is fairly cheap if you don't go nuts with the fit...
DR BiCarbonate
Doomriders.
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#14 - 2012-08-14 17:27:08 UTC
I felt like i was reading a high school essay or something...

anyways, hyena is still pretty cool i guess
Elzon1
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-08-14 17:43:47 UTC
And to think I thought of selling mine. It's a lovely little ship due to it's web bonus and speed. I believe the Hyena was the very first t2 ship I flew Pirate

Lots of fond memories with that little ship. As has been said it is a very useful ship to have when not in a major fleet. Man, I feel like whipping that little thing out now the next opportunity I have. Big smile
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-08-14 23:14:10 UTC
no hynea is a wortless ship

it cant doa level 4 mission
it cant do a level 3 mission
it cant do a level 2 mission
it cant do a level 1 mission

it can rat
it barely can mine
it cant do lots of dps

vindicator can do all of the above and more.

im a pubby and im proud

Lilliana Stelles
#17 - 2012-08-14 23:20:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Lilliana Stelles
I'd love to see a vindicator fit through the gate restrictions on a level 1.

I also want to know where you're flying this carebear fit vindicator and why you wouldn't be using a Machariel instead.

Not a forum alt. 

Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#18 - 2012-08-14 23:26:13 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
no hynea is a wortless ship

it cant doa level 4 mission
it cant do a level 3 mission
it cant do a level 2 mission
it cant do a level 1 mission

it can rat
it barely can mine
it cant do lots of dps

vindicator can do all of the above and more.


It can even cost less and fly faster. It can even keep up in a frig roam holy sh!t the Vindy is awesome bro cool story.
Barkaial Starfinder
Brazilian Vultures
Ferrata Victrix
#19 - 2012-08-14 23:28:24 UTC
To the troll:
Hyena is a PVP ship. Your troll sucks..




To whoever likes the ship:
Dies too fast for my taste..
Tyraeil Starblade
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-08-14 23:28:44 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
and a vindicator can do 1500 dps wtf should you fly this thing for


Vindicator's are horribly overrated (even if your DPS claim is dismally low) and are way overpriced.

Look at how they got rofl stomped in the AT for evidence of their actual pvp performance :)
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