Ships & Modules

Some of you may be under the mistaken impression that Caracals do well against Tengus, but I'm going to show you why that's not true. Hear me out:

1.) regeneration rate vs. DPS: Tengus have a faster regeneration rate and higher dps than caracals when fit properly, meaning the caracal cannot last as long in a fight between the two.

2.) 100MN afterburner setup: this allows the tengu to close into missile range easily, preventing the caracal from taking advantage of its potentially superior range. Due to the improperly balanced mass effects of using a battleship prop on a cruiser, webifiers will not slow the Tengu very much while it is using the 100MN afterburner.

3.) covert ops cloak: with this, the tengu is more mobile than the caracal and can more easily dictate how the battle begins.

4.) probes bonus: Tengus with the scanning subsystem can detect caracals with combat scanner probes faster than the caracal pilot can find the tengu. This gives the tengu even more advantage when it comes to initiating the attack.

Thoughts?

Where the hell did you get the idea that a caracal stood any kind of chance agaisn't a tengu ?

Hm, tengu lobbing missiles from 100km away while caracal trying to catch up with it's 60? km range. Oh yeah, caracal got zero chance.

Got to be a troll.

How can anyone think a low tier (while we still have tiers) T1 cruiser can take on a T3 is...like...wow...mind blown!

this all day

Unless its a shitfit PVE Tengu with another idiotic PVE pilot at the helm. Then a Caracal could get the kill :P

But yeah, why even make a thread about this? No one views a Caracal as a competitor to the Tengu.

If there's 200 Caracals and 2 Tengus, then surely...

6/10

I'm with you guys on this one. I don't think a Caracal stands much chance against a Tengu. I don't know if you noticed, though, but Shereza (the reason I made this thread) did exactly what I said she would and claimed that it actually was feasible for Caracals to be cost-effective against Tengus. I don't think I need to explain this to those of you who are the least bit familiar with either ship, but the only way for Caracals to be cost-effective against a Tengu is for you to get several buddies to fly them against a Tengu. But if you're bringing numbers into the game, it's eventually no longer about using Caracals, now it's about using numbers. I still wouldn't call it cost-effective because about 25% more Rifters could beat the Tengu, and for much less ship cost.

A solo Caracal could potentially win a reasonably fair fight (read: not a carefully set up cheap shot) with a Tengu, if the Tengu had only tech 2 modules on it, and the Caracal had many faction and officer modules on it, and it was a Navy Caracal. Then it would undoubtedly cost MUCH more than the Tengu, but would still probably have the odds stacked against it. Really, really against it. But I think it's conceivable it could win.

On the other end of the spectrum, a cheap-ish Caracal (about 15-20 mil) flown by a pilot with decent Caracal skills is much cheaper than a Tengu but doesn't even make so much as a dent in one. If the Tengu pilot were to duel with the Caracal pilot (who has many Caracals ready to go in his hangar) and every time the Tengu destroyed the Caracal, it would become frozen in stasis while the Caracal pilot got a new ship to re-join the fight, and assuming the Tengu has a passive tank, then it is conceivable that the Caracal pilot might destroy the Tengu after losing approximately the same value in Caracals, possibly less. But that's a pretty big "if" there.

In all reasonableness, please don't fly a Caracal against a Tengu. If you see a red flashy Tengu and you're in a Caracal, just shìt yourself and exit the game.

There it is.