Science & Industry

If these whining threads keep occuring, I hope CCP nerfs mining barges. I'm not a miner and am happy to see miners finally get some love but tards like OP really ruin it for everyone else. Stop complaining and accept what you have now.

obvious troll is obvious. I award you -3/10 TP's(Troll Points) TROLL HARDER OR GO HOME

I fail to see why this is a problem.

Only if we're willing to accept the idea that the OP is "average."

Hard to understand what exactly the OP was complaining about. The wall of text, and complete lack of sentence structure is painful to read. Provided this was meant as a serious post, and not a really bad trolling attempt.

The only real complaint I could get from it was about holding mining crystals in the HULK cargo hold?

First of all why does a HULK need 4-6 of any crystal type? A HULK still fits 3 strips needing one crystal each. A T2 crystal lasts on average about 6 hours, so there is no need for more than 3 of any crystal. This leaves room for 4 sets of 3 plus the set in the strips. That is 5 sets total. In what situation would you need more than this?

Even mining in 0.0 you do not need more than 5 sets of crystals. If you are solo mining you should be cherry picking, you only need crystals for the top 4-5 ores available. If you are mining in fleet, as the HULK is intended for, you will only be mining the ore types you are assigned. This prevents multiple miners targeting the same rocks.

If you do happen to need more crystals than this, keep them in the ORCA, or have your hauler drop of a GSC or jetcan beside you when they pick up the ore. If you do not have an ORCA or Hauler, than you should not be using a HULK. The new Mack is much better suited to solo mining.

Even in nullsec and WH space there's a solution if you need more spare crystals than will fit in our Mack/Hulk's hold:

1. Have haulers bring them out to you.
2. Store spares in the Orca.
3. Anchor some secure cans at strategic spots in the belt and warehouse spare crystals in them.
4. If your mining op involves a large number of barges, assign groups to specific types of ore so they only have to carry certain kinds of crystals.
5. Always start long ops with fresh crystals. Melt your used ones unless they're above 80% or so.

It's not complicated, folks. I was mining this way even before the patch.

I'm an advocate of jetcan mining with my Hulk and using a hauler to trundle the ore back to the station, but with the new Ret/Mack this isn't so much the case. If I'm alone or with a small gang it's just as efficient to run back to the station every so often (good bookmarks are a necessity, though). The Mack's cavernous 35K m3 hold is 30% more than a jetcan, so I can be out in the belt for a good while before I have to dock up or offload to the Orca.

I do mostly hisec mining, and I've found that using a Mack + mining drones over a Hulk + mining drones actually nets me a 10% or so greater yield, mainly due to the decreased logistics need -- that big cargo hold on the Mack is awesome!

What's really cool, though, is that the Retriever is damned near as good, and for a lot less ISK (in hisec, anyway -- I wouldn't take a Ret into losec/nullsec). I've salted Rets in all my mining systems, fully loaded, for what it would have cost me to buy a single Mack. It would take me ages to recoup the cost of that many Macks/Hulks, so from an ISK perspective the Retriever is a pure win if you use it correctly.

The only comparison I seen with EVE and WoW was your sh!tposting. I heard this is quite accepted and praised within the walls of the WoW forums.

Back to where you came from beast.

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