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Can Flipping and Wreak Stealing

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Fairren
HellrisCorp
#81 - 2012-08-13 22:47:42 UTC
You stink. I don't want your wreak.
Norm Tempesta
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#82 - 2012-08-13 23:19:29 UTC
This is Eve. This is not a game where you can run around and pick your flowers in a state of unaware bliss.

The main attraction to this game is that you can actually lose something, and that makes it so much more interesting.

There are many games where if you just want to be a carefree quester you can. Maybe try one of those out and leave this game to us morally bankrupt degenerates who happen to like it.
Cyprus Black
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#83 - 2012-08-13 23:54:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyprus Black
Adding GM quotes because nobody has posted them yet:

Per CCP Mitnal:
CCP Mitnal wrote:
"Our policy on this is extremely clear... Salvaging is a mini-profession within EVE and does not constitute stealing."

Per GM Faolchu :
GM Faolchu wrote:
Salvaging other peoples wrecks.... This is an intended game mechanic and is in no way an exploit. People salvaging your missions npcs or the player you just blew up are doing nothing wrong. The players are salvaging what is effectively floating rubbish in space and Concord places no value on this wreckage.
Eve is a harsh place you won't always have everything go your way, its a do or die world and people do what they can to get along. If salvaging some wreckage gets them a few more ISK someone will do it, it doesn't matter who just blew it up.

Per Senior GM Ytterbium :
GM Ytterbium wrote:
Players are still completely free to salvage other pilot wrecks at will ... and doing so is not considered as an exploit.

Per CCP Prism X :
CCP Prism X wrote:
Why is stealing salvage OK? It's not. It shouldn't even be possible to move an item from your cargo-hold / hanger to another persons cargo-hold / hanger without opening a trade window. Before the salvage enters those containers it is not considered your stuff by the server code. Hence it's not stealing.

Per CCP Incognito :
CCP Incognito wrote:
Had a chat with some designers this evening.
Ninja salvaging is intended game play. It was always intended that the wrecks are public, the loot is private.
They do not see it as a problem if others salvage your wrecks.

(These quotes are kept handy for your convenience at Ironfleet.com.)


Also, just because the loot in the can is yours doesn't mean you're entitled to it. If you're not strong enough to take what's yours, you don't deserve it.

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ISD TYPE40
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2012-08-14 00:02:11 UTC
Since the OP's answer has been clearly answered in the past by more than one CCP staff member, I'm going to lock this thread - ISD Type40.

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