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What would happen if Null Sec had no Local?
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YuuKnow
The Scope
#1 - 2012-08-13 00:50:23 UTC
What would happen if Null Sec's local were removed and made like WH space?

1. Would it effect the big alliances? Sovereignty?
2. How would it change fleet combat? What fleet combat tatics would change?
3. How would it change small gang/solo combat? Would small gang tatics change?
4. How would it effect hot drops and capital ship combat?
5. Would null sec be more fun or less fun? Would it attract more players or less players?

yk
Amber Coldheart
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-08-13 00:52:17 UTC
For starters, it would likely make everyone a LOT more paranoid :)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#3 - 2012-08-13 00:52:53 UTC
Hey a thread about nullsec-with-no-local.

I would definitely have a harder time multiboxing all the ships when I rat, that's for sure.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ensign X
#4 - 2012-08-13 00:53:35 UTC
INB4 AFK Cloaker tears flood this thread.
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#5 - 2012-08-13 00:53:59 UTC
Cloaky Protous

Cloaky Proteus Everywhere

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Regan Rotineque
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-08-13 00:59:16 UTC
Well for one we would not have any more threads pondering this dead horse......

Instead we would have threads asking to put local back.....

~R~
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#7 - 2012-08-13 01:00:38 UTC
YuuKnow wrote:
What would happen if Null Sec's local were removed and made like WH space?

1. Would it effect the big alliances? Sovereignty?
They have the numbers to not care
2. How would it change fleet combat? What fleet combat tatics would change?
Mainly fast detection of incoming threats
3. How would it change small gang/solo combat? Would small gang tatics change?
Probably would be hard to find fights reliably
4. How would it effect hot drops and capital ship combat?
Not much, since one involved simply finding something to hotdrop (Structure) and the other involves large fleet battles
5. Would null sec be more fun or less fun? Would it attract more players or less players?
Same amount of players (Camps), less fun(Being paranoid all the time)
yk

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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#8 - 2012-08-13 01:03:11 UTC
Depends if they replace the probing/D-scan system. If not then it will be terrible. The reason WH can get away with it is due to low traffic and non static entry points.
Jaison Savrin
Brave Empire Inc.
Brave United
#9 - 2012-08-13 01:03:13 UTC
I would try to talk my corp into just moving into a WH. It'd be safer.
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#10 - 2012-08-13 01:06:54 UTC
delay local 30 min
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-08-13 01:12:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Fabulousli Obvious
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Hey a thread about nullsec-with-no-local.



I haven't been this bored since .............. welll, ya know.............you DO remember I hope...

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Frying Doom
#12 - 2012-08-13 01:13:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
We would all drown in Nullbear tears, with them telling us how they lost the ability to run away at the first sign of a non-blue.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#13 - 2012-08-13 01:15:00 UTC
They could look at potentially having w-space local in 0.0 until sov is claimed and upgraded to level 1 or 2...

It would give alliances who want local the option of having it work and those who don't will simply not bother installing the upgrade. Would be interesting to see which kind of 0.0 would thrive best.
Fabulousli Obvious
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-08-13 01:16:52 UTC
WHY.......so SERIOUS ???

I am NOT YOUNG ENOUGH to know EVERYTHING.  ~~ Oscar Wilde, writer, d. November 30, 1900
Irya Boone
The Scope
#15 - 2012-08-13 01:18:08 UTC
Hummm same thing as usual maybe !!!Shocked

CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails .... Open that damn door !!

you shall all bow and pray BoB
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-08-13 01:23:14 UTC
Nullsecers would simply move PvE alts to hisec to run incursions (which are risk-free and provide similar levels of income to nullsec.) Nothing else would change, short of nullsec being largely quiet when nobody is forming up for a big timer.

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Suqq Madiq
#17 - 2012-08-13 01:46:44 UTC
Andski wrote:
Nullsecers would simply move PvE alts to hisec to run incursions (which are risk-free and provide similar levels of income to nullsec.) Nothing else would change, short of nullsec being largely quiet when nobody is forming up for a big timer.


"Risk- free"? Shocked

Were you able to keep a straight face when you typed that? I shouldn't need to remind you that EVE has risk involved every time you hit the undock button.
Russell Casey
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-08-13 01:53:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Russell Casey
People would rat in destroyers and actually learn to use D-scans, cloaks, and safespots. Or what's left of the PvE out there would die while the number of null alts farming in empire would shoot through the roof. Nullsec would be a lot like lowsec at that point, with players saying, "yeah, in the old days people would do plexes, rat, and mine here."
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-08-13 01:55:47 UTC
Suqq Madiq wrote:
Andski wrote:
Nullsecers would simply move PvE alts to hisec to run incursions (which are risk-free and provide similar levels of income to nullsec.) Nothing else would change, short of nullsec being largely quiet when nobody is forming up for a big timer.


"Risk- free"? Shocked

Were you able to keep a straight face when you typed that? I shouldn't need to remind you that EVE has risk involved every time you hit the undock button.


yeah uh nobody can say with a straight face that there is any significant risk involved in hisec incursion running

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Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#20 - 2012-08-13 01:56:19 UTC
Russell Casey wrote:
People ... actually learn to use D-scans


Cloaked ships do not show up on the directional scanner.
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