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Sure this may make some move to nullsec yet again, but for others, no matter what they do, they won't go. If they really want to get a lot back to 0.0, unnerf the anons..lol Plus a few other things and will have another mass exodus to 0.0.

Excellent ideas. I will mention them to Chairman For Life The Mittani.

Do this, and I can assure you I'll enjoy podding my alts every day.

No bounties on pods, but on the ships they fly, kinda like it is on ratting, just on 0.0 alliances

Given that all the things in the winter expansion were supposedly their ideas, wonder if this'll be in the Spring one

Well like ratting, bigger the ship higher the bounties, smaller the ship smaller the bounties and small like in ratting so it wouldn't nearly cover the cost of the ship to avoid abuse.

As much as I "carebear" these days and run POS's etc. this is not quite true.

The only thing a high-sec POS effectively allows is for you to work on BPO's/BPC's and copies. ALL of which can be done in stations - albeit, waiting 3 months for a slot. This can be easily remedied at the flick of a switch by CCP.

All production on any item that can be done in a highsec POS can also be done in station.

It will mean a rationalization of highsec POS's at worst but will it force 0.0 alliances to mine their own ice and this alone makes them very, very vulnerable. This can only be a good thing.

Before POS's was released we had the same amount of industry slots in stations as we do today and with even less people playing you still had to wait 3 months for a slot.
I can not see CCP giving high sec stations more industry slots.

I remeber I had to move to a 0.4 system to get any industry slots and this was in the time when 0.4 was still under concord protection. But with high sec now smaller than it use to be factory slots in empire are a lot less.

The suggestion I had made in the old thread was to remove Ice completely (as a mining mechanic) and redo as P2 planet products (for the core products anyway - Stront would be made in the same reaction chambers that you do boosters in, giving a boost to Low). The Mackinaw would become a gas miner, though it would require some tank adjustment.

I still think this would be a reasonable idea, and would not take much dev work; Everything is there already, just extend to replace.

Basicly the whole idea of moving people into low sec is flawed with the current alliance pvp only mentallity and politics

At the moment ,how i see it is is actually easier and cheaper for nullsec alliance just to mine the abc ores and exploit moons for moo goo , take what they need for their own use and sell the rest in high sec and buy their low end minerals and ice products there and still end up with a huge profit, which makes sense

It is not that there aren't any opportunities for a ondustrial in nullsec, just the mentallity isn't there to expand a alliance industrial base and to become selfsufficient
What hardcore pvp pilot would want to babysit over a bunch of iceminers while he could do plexes and earn a few 100 millions
Second most ex nullsec dwellers eventually left nullsec because they despise the politics and the drama or got sick and tired being treated as second rat e citizen or ending up as target practice by a alliance that is actually blue to the sov holding alliance they belong or rent from

Alot of people who are into industry or mining i know in high sec really want to have a go in nullsec but sadly like i said before the mentallity and current sov mechanics making this very hard if not impossible

And removing high sec ice will certainly not get more people into null sec

just my thoughts