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A possible solution to AFK cloaky alts

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Kitty McKitty
In Praise Of Shadows
#241 - 2011-10-12 20:39:19 UTC
what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#242 - 2011-10-12 20:43:04 UTC
Kitty McKitty wrote:
what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?


sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.

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Kinroi Alari
Orbital Express LTD
Trystero GmbH
#243 - 2011-10-12 20:53:18 UTC

Fun AFK cloaker (more low sec than null sec, won't get you through a bubble):
Noobship;
MAPC;
Prototype Cloaking Device;
Maybe a drone for giggles.

What's not to love about it!? ;)
Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#244 - 2011-10-12 20:53:57 UTC
This thread is full of smartasses and generic dumb people. At least stop spamming that "AFK ppl can't do a thing if they are AFK". It should be pretty obvious what the term "AFK cloaker" means. If it's not, then you don't really know much about eve.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#245 - 2011-10-12 20:59:37 UTC
Mistress Motion wrote:
This thread is full of smartasses and generic dumb people. At least stop spamming that "AFK ppl can't do a thing if they are AFK". It should be pretty obvious what the term "AFK cloaker" means. If it's not, then you don't really know much about eve.

Well considering that the term "AFK cloaker" has AFK in it and AFK stands for "away from keyboard" could you explain how a person who isn't even at his or her computer can do anything to you?

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Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#246 - 2011-10-12 21:02:12 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mistress Motion wrote:
This thread is full of smartasses and generic dumb people. At least stop spamming that "AFK ppl can't do a thing if they are AFK". It should be pretty obvious what the term "AFK cloaker" means. If it's not, then you don't really know much about eve.

Well considering that the term "AFK cloaker" has AFK in it and AFK stands for "away from keyboard" could you explain how a person who isn't even at his or her computer can do anything to you?


You know it has been said like 100 times in this thread what it means?

But you are really right, people should change the name to something else, take that word AFK out to get slower people in the train again.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#247 - 2011-10-12 21:02:53 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Mistress Motion wrote:
This thread is full of smartasses and generic dumb people. At least stop spamming that "AFK ppl can't do a thing if they are AFK". It should be pretty obvious what the term "AFK cloaker" means. If it's not, then you don't really know much about eve.

Well considering that the term "AFK cloaker" has AFK in it and AFK stands for "away from keyboard" could you explain how a person who isn't even at his or her computer can do anything to you?


This ^^


Although like i've said the AFK person can be AFK and remove one selected anomaly type from the system for as long as he likes. Kinda cool for those systems with only 1 sanctum or 1 haven.

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Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#248 - 2011-10-12 21:04:34 UTC
Mistress Motion wrote:
But you are really right

Well duh...

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#249 - 2011-10-12 21:05:52 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Kitty McKitty wrote:
what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?


sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.
Which is still not a fault of the cloak, but is a fault of the spawn mechanic. CCP are the ones not doing jack to fix that, meanwhile the AFK pilot does jack which just happens to highlight the problem.

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Tonemaster B
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#250 - 2011-10-12 21:07:03 UTC
We should have a some sort of counter to people sitting in stations for hours on end.

Because I can't tell if they are in space or not.

And I can't dock so I don't know if they are in station.

Thats bullshit man!
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#251 - 2011-10-12 21:18:03 UTC
Mag's wrote:
the AFK pilot does jack


while AFK.

=)

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#252 - 2011-10-12 21:27:20 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Kitty McKitty wrote:
what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?
sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.
…which still has nothing to do with AFK cloaking since the issue lies with the despawning mechanics of dungeons.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#253 - 2011-10-12 21:31:31 UTC
Hey guys, we get it. We understand that when you say "AFK Cloaker," you are not literally referring to someone whom is AFK. You are referring to the ability of someone to sit in local, AFK or otherwise, for prolonged periods of time while cloaked and then suddenly tackle you and bring in friends to kill you. What we keep saying to you is that there is a very simple way for you to avoid this: go to another system to do your PVE activities when you see a neutral or hostile alt in local.

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Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#254 - 2011-10-12 21:32:40 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Kitty McKitty wrote:
what exactly can an afk pilot do, apart from make cowards stop playing of their own volition?
sit afk on an anomaly, cloaked, preventing it from despawning.
…which still has nothing to do with AFK cloaking since the issue lies with the despawning mechanics of dungeons.


an issue which can be exploited by AFK people.

My point being that an AFK cloaker can affect a system while being AFK. Wrong or not, having to do with him being cloaked or not, afk or not. He can do it. While AFK.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#255 - 2011-10-12 21:34:11 UTC
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hey guys, we get it. We understand that when you say "AFK Cloaker," you are not literally referring to someone whom is AFK. You are referring to the ability of someone to sit in local, AFK or otherwise, for prolonged periods of time while cloaked and then suddenly tackle you and bring in friends to kill you. What we keep saying to you is that there is a very simple way for you to avoid this: go to another system to do your PVE activities when you see a neutral or hostile alt in local.


Or just get in a group and rat with your friends

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Mag's
Azn Empire
#256 - 2011-10-12 21:36:19 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Mag's wrote:
the AFK pilot does jack


while AFK.

=)
I'm glad you agree.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.
Lillian Elle
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#257 - 2011-10-12 21:41:40 UTC
Tech 2 Scanning Probes, that at best will get you to 5000 m from the cloaked ship.
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#258 - 2011-10-12 21:45:01 UTC
Lillian Elle wrote:
Tech 2 Scanning Probes, that at best will get you to 5000 m from the cloaked ship.


This one i liked...

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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#259 - 2011-10-12 21:45:45 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Lyris Nairn wrote:
Hey guys, we get it. We understand that when you say "AFK Cloaker," you are not literally referring to someone whom is AFK. You are referring to the ability of someone to sit in local, AFK or otherwise, for prolonged periods of time while cloaked and then suddenly tackle you and bring in friends to kill you. What we keep saying to you is that there is a very simple way for you to avoid this: go to another system to do your PVE activities when you see a neutral or hostile alt in local.


Or just get in a group and rat with your friends


well how well you can asset the danger you are in ? how much friends you gonna need ?

titan bridge 1k+ BS and support ? full cap fleet ? 3 drakes ?


per say / while afk he cant do anything

deception is in play here, you simply dont know. Only reasonable thing to do is just log off and check next day.. in case you cant ratt/mine in other system. In case you can you just move not an big deal.
Party Lips
Calamitous-Intent
#260 - 2011-10-12 21:47:26 UTC
Sniped117 wrote:
in the best interest of my alliance im posting on an alt.

On my main i am in null sec and seen enemies to my alliance go in each of our systems with an alt and go cloaked for days and days on end. this disrupts our operations to ratting mining and other profitable isk ways. it started to tear down my alliance these people sitting cloaked off grid waiting to pick off the easy targets when we least expect it and hotdropping us time to time.. It brought my alliance mostly to a halt.

A debatable Solution:

Make it so to activate cloaking modules you must have a fuel to power it instead of using Capacitor power. Maybe a fuel like nitrogen isotopes that is consumed per hour using your cloaky module and is stored in your cargo bay or a cloaked fuels bay. So say covert ops cloak ships with the bonuses to use less fuel per hour would use less fuel per hour while being cloaked moving around while ships with prototype cloaks use more fuel per hour.

Just a thought

cloaking ships are invincible if not seen and menacing and fun to use to your liking. Its a pain in the ass when an alt is sitting in your system for days and days on end... a fuel to consume would eventually run out in were the fuel is held and uncloak the ship therefore easier to find and sotp

cloaking ships have no counter everything else has a counter lets make one for cloakies


answer would be give black ops ability to see cloaky ships. just float around and bump into them ha