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Buying laptop, what is minimum graphics card?

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Linia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-08-12 19:54:36 UTC
Hello EVE FORUM!
I personally use this site: videocardbenchmark.net to check video cards, and on my stationary, I have the Radeon 4850 HD, which scores 1332.
I would assume I need a gfx card about as good for my laptop to run EVE?
Or how much do I need?
I usually mission and/or mine and production things.

I dont mind if I have to play with station environment and all the "walking in station" off.

As cheap as possible please.

~Linia
mkint
#2 - 2012-08-12 19:58:51 UTC
shaders v3.0 I think is all you need. You can adjust graphics settings to make it run smoother otherwise.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Linia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-08-12 20:16:47 UTC
mkint wrote:
shaders v3.0 I think is all you need. You can adjust graphics settings to make it run smoother otherwise.

Helps me nothing, I need a minimum number on my list please
When looking at computers, none says anything about shaders, only gfx card name.
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#4 - 2012-08-12 21:01:50 UTC
He's right. Damn near any card with the right technology will run the game fine. My old laptop had a Geforce 9600M GT, which has a benchmark rating of mid 300s on that Site, ran it at medium settings just fine. Something notably weaker would run it fine on low settings.
Linia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2012-08-12 21:14:41 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
He's right. Damn near any card with the right technology will run the game fine. My old laptop had a Geforce 9600M GT, which has a benchmark rating of mid 300s on that Site, ran it at medium settings just fine. Something notably weaker would run it fine on low settings.


Geforce Go 7300 doesnt :P
Ledi Nuka
Lead Venture
#6 - 2012-08-12 22:37:44 UTC
My notebook with an i5 processor without separate grahpics runs EVE fine enough. The sandy bridge processors have OK built-in graphic capabilities, better than I expected.

Would recommend making sure you can run at higher resolution as EVE can get busy with various windows open. So either have a built in display or the capabilities to support an external display with enough pixels. I personally dislike anything under 1280 x 1024, and even this resolution is uncomfortable for my tastes.

The i5 can run captains quarters although with lower settings.

Not going to install that websites benchmarking software. Never heard of them before and not feeling very trusting at the moment.
ISD Etetia
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-12 22:55:59 UTC
Hello Linia

I'd recommend you check out the official system requirements.

Walking in stations and character creation is definitely some of the features that requires the most of your graphics card.
I'm speaking from experience when I say that the game is playable on a computer that just meets the minimum requirements, but the features mentioned above can tend to run a bit slow at times.

If you want the optimal gaming experience, you should aim a bit higher than the minimum requirements.

ISD Etetia

Commander

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Velarra
#8 - 2012-08-13 06:39:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Velarra
Just be sure its a discreet graphics card with say, at minimum 512m dedicated graphics memory.
For what it's worth, - I'm having no serious issues running all settings high, HDR & AA off, with an NV 8600M GT 512m. In space & char gen / walking in CQ.

The same card all other variables equal, with 256m DOES have some issues and is notably slow/sluggish unless your character is bald or has really short hair. [Hair being such a render hog].
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#9 - 2012-08-13 09:02:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
Would personally advice against gaming on a laptop. You'll find that laptops have heat issues which lead to under performance even with a card that has many times eve's minimum system requirements. Played eve in 2009 - 2010 with a 1 gig gpu ROG laptop with noisy hardcore cooling to get some performance and must say it was quite a frustrating experience. If you do buy one do not go cheap, it's foolish to buy a laptop that you will need to replace after a year and do not expect to upgrade. Also buy the insurance. GPU failures on laptops are rampant (again due to heat)

On your question. Go for a GB dedicated and compare GPU speeds and HEAT production. That's where the real difference lies between good laptop cards and cheap ****. Do not use card you can't properly cool. o/

Edit. Ivy bridge chips have just been launched this may. They provide longer battery life , godly performance and will jump start your graphics. Put one in your gaming laptop and be happy :).

Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first.

Ledi Nuka
Lead Venture
#10 - 2012-08-13 12:43:10 UTC
ISD Etetia wrote:
Hello Linia

I'd recommend you check out the official system requirements.

Walking in stations and character creation is definitely some of the features that requires the most of your graphics card.
I'm speaking from experience when I say that the game is playable on a computer that just meets the minimum requirements, but the features mentioned above can tend to run a bit slow at times.

If you want the optimal gaming experience, you should aim a bit higher than the minimum requirements.


You don't actually need a DVD to install or play EVE. You download the whole thing. Some notebooks don't have DVD's these days. If yours doesn't its no problem.
Keno Skir
#11 - 2012-08-13 13:50:10 UTC
I run 2 clients at a time on an "ACER ASPIRE 5732z"

This laptop is fairly affordable now even with a few new bits nowadays. It is without a shadow of a doubt the best laptop i have ever owned as far as reliability (never overheats after 2 years of solid gaming and smoking in front of it) and it runs EvE on mid range settings twice without a hicup.

Intel Pentium processor T4400 (2.2Ghz 800Mhz FSB)
Intel GMA 4500 graphics with 1695Mb DVMT
15.6 inch screen
4gig ram
320Gb Drive
Wireless signal booster, full size keyboard and a card reader.

Cost me £799 in january sales after xmas before last, likely very affordable now even new version.

Think im an ACER regular now :)
Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#12 - 2012-08-13 18:38:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
Radius Prime wrote:
Would personally advice against gaming on a laptop. .

meh you can't part me from mine. I replaced my old gateway laptop with a new bargain level toshiba satellite this year, and it's nearly overkill (Intel HD, best settings for space). I see no reason to think about an upgrade until CCP totally revamps the graphics again, which will be what like another 9 years?

As for heat, I've learned from my last three laptops that you don't place the laptop on your lap, you get one of those laptop tables like you can get at staples or walmart for $30 (great for a recliner hah). If you need to get it even cooler, you can get one of those plastic board-things with a built in fan to sit the laptop on. But I hardly use my external fan-thingy, and this laptop runs cooler than my last (which didn't burn up). Battery life doesn't matter, now a days there is always someplace to plug into, and if you are on the move you are probably doing something other than spending a lot of time playing games.

I have a new ASUS desktop too (AMD), NVIDIA card, runs captains quarters at best settings, but the laptop gets 80% of the luv when it comes to EVE. That 20% simply because I like to jump on the bigger screen at times, but my laptop I keep up a little closer since the laptop table is easy to adjust. Only real downside is sound, but headphones work, also there are external sound devices (e.g. my Line6 guitar port), or just turn the sound up on the TV/entertainment center from your recliner anyway.

Oh and to be fair to desktops, I did my char gens on the desktop. I can do it on the bargain laptop, it'll render, but just a little slow (fine in quarters at mid settings). But as a graphics artist, running modeling, texture, animation apps and shader programming on this thing, np, just I view incarna to be a little clunky at real-time rendering (should improve over time/development). This thing even runs the newer Bethesda games at decent frame rates, so no complaints here.

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Vince Arron
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-08-13 20:50:22 UTC
Graphics cards only get you so far, if the rest of your system isnt up to par it could create a bottle neck at the CPU or the RAM. that being said almost any laptop sold with in the last year or two should be able to run eve.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#14 - 2012-08-13 23:07:10 UTC
If you're looking at Brands/Manufacturers, Asus and Lenovo are the Top-Tier for quality. I've got a Ideapad Z575 (Got it for a low price), and it runs EVE pretty well, besides for the obvious screen real estate issues that come with a laptop.

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt

mkint
#15 - 2012-08-14 01:22:31 UTC
You need shader model 3. That's directx 9.0c. Windows 7 requires shader 5. The only question that matters is how much pain tolerance does your wallet have?

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Omega Sunset
Black.Omega
#16 - 2012-08-14 02:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Omega Sunset
mkint wrote:
The only question that matters is how much pain tolerance does your wallet have?
Well you could go spend $2k on a laptop and not get anything more out of it than one for $500, as far as for running EVE.

Tarn Kugisa wrote:
Asus and Lenovo
I don't know how those do with EVE, but speaking for the toshiba I have EVE runs great. Although I have an ASUS desktop and have come to regret the purchase to a point (for reasons other than playing EVE). I'd never buy a lenovo, myself. But I think the important thing is Intel chips at this point. Sadly that coming from a long time hard core AMD user since like 98 or something.

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