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Franzio Knutz
Rouge Band of Miners inc.
#1 - 2012-08-12 18:22:56 UTC
I'm a old player returning after a long time away, since my return I've been solo running L4's and would like to run complexes along with my L4's just when I'm fed up with mission running and need some thing else Smile

I've been reading posts here and trying to get my finger around exploration and I'm starting at High-Sec Complex just to learn the ropes, as they say, but can't seem to figure out a good fit and/or ship to pick.

I'm flying mainly Raven-CNR-Drake-Tengu(To name ships that I own), can anyone give me some fitting advice for any of those ships or an advice on a ship that would be better fit for High-Sec Plexing.

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Amelya Laurann
Undefined Probabilities
#2 - 2012-08-12 19:04:14 UTC
High sec plexing is nothing harder than lvl 3 missions. A Drake is more than enough. It even has so many mids u can fit that codebreaker and/or analyser + that probe launcher on it cuz u have 7 heavy launchers and 8 highs.


Un less its for practice to go into WH, low sec or null sec Plexes, dont expect any real ISK gain from that. Its a nice change from grinding missions tho :D
Chimpy B
The Philosophy Of Two
#3 - 2012-08-12 19:25:58 UTC
You might get a occasional nice bit of loot from 3/10s, but I don't think it will be worth your time. I'd recommend looking for 4 or 5/10s (or equivalent unrated ones) in low sec, although beware of gankers.
Franzio Knutz
Rouge Band of Miners inc.
#4 - 2012-08-12 20:18:14 UTC
Great, thanks, will be setting up a Drake fit and go looking for something fun Smile

Since you both say that low nad null sec would be more lucrative, obviously Smile, I doubt a Drake would do well there considering gankers and such, any recomendations for the eventual next move to low sec, I know Tengu is the big talk but It is a bit expencive and would be fun to hear of other ships that are good at low sec Plexing, don't need to be Caldari missile boats Big smile

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Sir Livingston
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-08-12 21:42:40 UTC
Franzio Knutz wrote:
Great, thanks, will be setting up a Drake fit and go looking for something fun Smile

Since you both say that low nad null sec would be more lucrative, obviously Smile, I doubt a Drake would do well there considering gankers and such, any recomendations for the eventual next move to low sec, I know Tengu is the big talk but It is a bit expencive and would be fun to hear of other ships that are good at low sec Plexing, don't need to be Caldari missile boats Big smile

You say the Tengu is expensive...and I agree, but the payoff from low/null complexes can easily cover the cost of your ship if you get just 1 or 2 good loot drops. This comes from extensive personal experience on the subject Blink

Just beware the dirty gates, gate camps, smartbombers, pvp probing alts, roaming gangs, large null alliance lowsec tour fleets etc.

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Franzio Knutz
Rouge Band of Miners inc.
#6 - 2012-08-12 22:11:48 UTC
Sir Livingston wrote:
Franzio Knutz wrote:
Great, thanks, will be setting up a Drake fit and go looking for something fun Smile

Since you both say that low nad null sec would be more lucrative, obviously Smile, I doubt a Drake would do well there considering gankers and such, any recomendations for the eventual next move to low sec, I know Tengu is the big talk but It is a bit expencive and would be fun to hear of other ships that are good at low sec Plexing, don't need to be Caldari missile boats Big smile

You say the Tengu is expensive...and I agree, but the payoff from low/null complexes can easily cover the cost of your ship if you get just 1 or 2 good loot drops. This comes from extensive personal experience on the subject Blink

Just beware the dirty gates, gate camps, smartbombers, pvp probing alts, roaming gangs, large null alliance lowsec tour fleets etc.


It is tempting and after a few high sec runs I will be dearing my self to go explore low sec, and if I loose my Tengu(wich I most likely someday will) I'll be mad as hell, tip my hat to who ever bested me and move on Big smile

I don't suposed you have any Tengu exploration fits? Smile

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2012-08-12 22:27:44 UTC
Also keep in mind the majority of high sec complexes are restricted to cruiser down, which knocks the drake out.
Sir John Halsey
#8 - 2012-08-13 18:45:12 UTC
Drake can do 4/10 and Vigil.
Higgs Foton
Mission And Mining Inc
#9 - 2012-08-13 21:58:15 UTC
I do plexing both in null and high sec and have some good experience with it. I see most people fly around in t3 cruisers to do them, and yes, that works quite well. For high sec plexing i currently use a Gila with drone damage amplifiers which has more then enough tank to run Angels 3/10 and 4/10's and the vigil and watch non-DED plexes I also did most of the others, but i found Angels to be most profitable, since Minmatar space is not so crowded as Caldari space and the rats in Amarr and Gallente space drop crap lewt, so you want to avoid those.

You would only have to watch out in the Blood raiders 4/10 since there is a lot of neuting going on, but the others are easily done in HAC's (Ishtar also shines here!) T3's and faction cruisers like the Gila. Battlecruisers might do well, but i see players in Battlecruisers always struggle. Apart from the drake that is

Best way to run plexes in high sec and to prevent people from stealing your plex is to make sure you run them FAST. So have a tank which can take full aggro and inmediately go for the objective. The angels (and Sansha and Serpentis) vigil and watch can be blitzed, so i surely recommend doing that and don't waste your time shooting worthless cruisers and frigs.

Null sec is a completely other ballgame, and you have the added bonus of protection of your own alliance (if they are big) and their intell channels, and your alliance mates wont steal your plex. And the drops can be massive. Like total worth up to 2 or 3 billion. Imagine a Gursistas Troop Reinvigararion dropping both the shield booster and the invul. Ohlala!