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How would you define a "carebear"?
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Josef Djugashvilis
#21 - 2012-08-12 09:01:58 UTC
Even if some one is a complete carebear, who cares?

CCP want their money.

How a player chooses to play is up to them, given the usual constraints.

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Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#22 - 2012-08-12 09:13:00 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Even if some one is a complete carebear, who cares?


bears ?
Hypercake Mix
#23 - 2012-08-12 09:28:47 UTC
That baddie corp-mate that went out to mine in a Hulk in a belt of the corp's home system while under an active war-dec, got blown up, and then quit EVE because he didn't want to PvP, after being told to not undock in a Hulk.
Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-08-12 09:44:43 UTC
Anybody that won't play a multiplayer game in the manner that the PvPers want them to.

It started as insult to PvE style players, but it's so widely used now hardly anyone really even cares about it.




And anyway the term 'Carebear' was probably dreamt up by someone with the mental age of about 7.
Lyrrashae
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#25 - 2012-08-12 09:57:03 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Umm any other bigoted statements, you missed a few groups in your hate speech.


Train sarcasm and/or cynicism detection to level 1, ASAP.

Ni.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#26 - 2012-08-12 10:05:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Halcyon Ingenium
Carebear is a slur against one EVE player who is disliked by another EVE player.

I propose that we rescue this word, bring it back. I'm going to start calling everyone I like a carebear. "What's up my carebear?" "Carebear please!" "Damn carebear, you got alpha'd the **** out!" "All the carebears in the house say 'Hey, ho!'" "Carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear, why does Concord hate carebears? Carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear carebear, cause our dicks is bigger!"

Ok, so that last one doesn't rhyme, this is a work in progress.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Mag's
Azn Empire
#27 - 2012-08-12 10:09:56 UTC
I don't think I've ever used the term and I don't much care tbh. I care more for balance, no matter what the profession. Cool

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Frying Doom
#28 - 2012-08-12 10:12:44 UTC
Lyrrashae wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Umm any other bigoted statements, you missed a few groups in your hate speech.


Train sarcasm and/or cynicism detection to level 1, ASAP.

Have you ever read these forums?

I have seen similar non sarcastic comments like this before and even since the great ISD attack of O12.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Pilna Vcelka
Doomheim
#29 - 2012-08-12 10:19:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Pilna Vcelka
Carebear is a mentally grown-up person with reasonably big p***s who doesnt feel the urge to compensate for their real life failures by trying to become wannabe uberleet internet gangster and doesnt find runing other players gameplay neither fun nor manly, but rather boring, immature activity.

Carebear is typically a player who logs in to enjoy the EVE gameplay atmosphere and to cooperate with others to create stuff and to relax rather than destroying stuff and trembling with adrenaline while hunting a poorly fit industrial ship 20v1 along with other dejected pvp nerds.

That said, us carebears love and need PvP scrubs because they keep the economy going and let us earn space riches by creating constand demand for ships and modules and by keeping high-sec ore prices high.
Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#30 - 2012-08-12 10:24:58 UTC
A term used by sour players to define someone who doesn't play the game the way said sour players deem acceptable.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#31 - 2012-08-12 10:29:16 UTC
Opposite of Apathybear?

TBH, don't really care myself...

James315 for CSM 8!
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#32 - 2012-08-12 10:36:26 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Opposite of Apathybear?

TBH, don't really care myself...


The opposits to carebear is INTENSIVE carebear, hon. Blink

So, what is a carebear? I dunno, really... it seams that in EVE, the term "carebear" is an equivalent of what the term "casual" was in WoW one day... in he end, everybody got labeled that sooner or later when she/he wasn't playing the game "as it was meant to be played".

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#33 - 2012-08-12 10:42:33 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Opposite of Apathybear?

TBH, don't really care myself...


The opposits to carebear is INTENSIVE carebear, hon. Blink

So, what is a carebear? I dunno, really... it seams that in EVE, the term "carebear" is an equivalent of what the term "casual" was in WoW one day... in he end, everybody got labeled that sooner or later when she/he wasn't playing the game "as it was meant to be played".


In every MMO there are bigots who feel an urge to tell others how to play (and usually happens to be in a way that provides them fun by ruining everyone else's), and also are players who dare to play as they see fit.


As EVE is a so called "sandbox", the difference is a bit more extreme in it, also because the "endgame" mechanics are clearly in favor of powerplayers and against more casual players.

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Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-08-12 10:43:07 UTC
Shalua Rui wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Opposite of Apathybear?

TBH, don't really care myself...


The opposits to carebear is INTENSIVE carebear, hon. Blink

So, what is a carebear? I dunno, really... it seams that in EVE, the term "carebear" is an equivalent of what the term "casual" was in WoW one day... in he end, everybody got labeled that sooner or later when she/he wasn't playing the game "as it was meant to be played".


When I played wow (I know I am ashamed), carebear servers were the non-pvp servers. Basically if non-consensual pvp was not allowed on a server, it was carebear. So I've always taken that with me, carebears are the players that do not like non-consensual pvp. Players that accept it as part of the game, even if they do not participate in direct pvp combat do not qualify as a carebear by that definition.

James315 for CSM 8!
Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#35 - 2012-08-12 10:43:51 UTC
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
#36 - 2012-08-12 10:49:11 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.


Yea, but that's the fun part... that's not possible in EVE and even the most "carebearesque" of players knows that after a time... when she/he doesn't stop playing at this point, she/he is no carebear... that's how I see it, atleast. EVE can cope with every playsyle, if anything the goons made a point on that...

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Sabrina Solette
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-08-12 10:50:57 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.



You mean like suicide pilots in high-sec for instance.
Cadfael Maelgwyn
Doomheim
#38 - 2012-08-12 10:53:46 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Merovee wrote:
Civilization builders, non-warrior class.


Civilization builders live in nullsec, where risk is omnipresent and building an empire is actually possible.

Because nobody in 0.0 runs and hides when a neut comes in local, amirite?
Josef Djugashvilis
#39 - 2012-08-12 10:54:05 UTC
Syler Puuntai wrote:
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.


Not so.

One of my old corpie mates likes to manufacture, mine, run missions etc.

But if you attack him, he will hunt you down and gank you, even if you hide in 0.0.

He is actually good at pvp, he just prefers the carebear playstyle.

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Syler Puuntai
Nomadic Asylum
#40 - 2012-08-12 10:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Syler Puuntai
Sabrina Solette wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.



You mean like suicide pilots in high-sec for instance.


Back before the insurance changes yes. I don't know now what the cost is on suicide ganking so I can't say. I personally was never a fan of suicide ganking as a profession or high sec griefing corps, they fell under the carebear title for me personally.

Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Syler Puuntai wrote:
People who try to avoid risk at any cost.


Not so.

One of my old corpie mates likes to manufacture, mine, run missions etc.

But if you attack him, he will hunt you down and gank you, even if you hide in 0.0.

He is actually good at pvp, he just prefers the carebear playstyle.


Then hes not a carebear. Since he doesn't always avoid risk. Doing things like mine and manufacturing is just playing the industrial side of the game.